G-lord

The picture Final Ultima posted of the DBZ Cosmos was actually drawn by Akira Toriyama. It is canon material. As for the Anime being canon, well, here it isn't considered canon.

I watch many Animes where the filler and changes to the Manga are accepted and approved by the original creator of the Manga. If that's canon for you, then call it canon. But at MFG, Anime isn't canon, simply because the changes to the Manga could contradict the Manga (which most here see as being the most important issue - maintaining the original meaning of the Manga). Such as Yamcha being able to fight off those warriors in the Afterlife during the Buu Saga. The human Z fighters in the Anime are waaay stronger than they were in the Manga.

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Evil Vegeta

Lol, Final Ultima always posts like he has rocks up his ass or somethin. Stop tryin to be right all the time, you only make yourself sound more stupid and ignorant. You are usually wrong about 96% of the time, so you'll never learn anyway.

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ANB

The flames home in one the target, not instantaneous cumbustion. FACT: DBZ characters are literally thousands of times faster than Sasuke. Fact: Sasuke was dipping and dodging the Amaterasu blasts. Fact: Amaterasu converges in one the target.

Conclusion: DBZ characters can dodge Amaterasu. And since Super Perfect Cell can withstand the heat of the sun, anyone his level or higher could withstand the attack.




Fact: ROSAT is a dimension. FACT: Super Boo can open a hole to escape from dimensions. Fact: Tsukuyomi is a dimension. Fact: Susano'o sends the opponent to a "dream-like" dimension. So where they are is essentially just another "dimension".

Conclusion: Super Boo CAN escape Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu. Itachi tells his opponents what the jutsu's do [Like how he told Sasuke and Kakashi] and they [DBZ characters; namingly Boo and Gotenks] would take the initiative (Boo escaped immediately upon realizing he was stuck and leaped out of the hole he made). Furthermore, Goku and Kid Boo can use instant transmission so add them to the list.

There is literally nothing else to discuss. I foresee...your phailure.

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Final Ultima

No, I ALWAYS go with the facts, I can't be wrong with FACTS on my side. You have a hard time reading and understanding things.


And Toriyama THANKED/Acknowledges the team of animators for what they have done. Toriyama already explained WHY The anime team had to add material that was not in the manga because a single manga comic would only be a 10 minute episode. You guys here (MFG 5.0 Anime/Manga Forums) can cover your eye's and ears about the anime not being Dragonball but it IS. It exists, It's officially sanctioned by Toriyama, it's over and done with. Members who only want to use what they want to use and disregard something the Author himself said is Dragonball along with the Manga are simply FANBOYS and none of you can be reasoned with.

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Madness

Oh yes, the anime is Dragon Ball alright.

But it isn't canon.

Yes, we all know that the manga wasn't long enough to make a decent length anime, but simply because they added stuff in doesn't make it canon. I'm sorry Final Ultima, but you're wrong.

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Final Ultima

You contradicted yourself, terribly...

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Madness

No I didn't. There's a difference between Dragon Ball as a whole, and canonical Dragon Ball. Simply because filler isn't canon doesn't make it not Dragon Ball. It's still Dragon Ball, it's just not true Dragon Ball. You really do seem to have a problem understanding people. Either that or you just like to twist peoples words.

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Final Ultima

Wrong, Dragonball IS THE CANON.

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Jonny America

You don't get it do you...canon is not a matter of the Author's opinion. If that were the case we'd all agree with you. Toriyama doesn't have authority over what's canon. The manga came first, therefore it's canon. It's obvious that the filler events were not first priority to be included, meaning they have no pertinent information in them. They're crap. Just let it go, you're wrong.

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Madness

Err... no.

Dragon Ball is the show.

"Canon" is whatever is contained in the manga and written orginally by Akira Toriyama. Filler does not fall into this as it was not created by Akira Toriyama and nor does it contain any of his ideas (this is how the Daizenshuu is considered canon). Filler was made directly to "fill" the gaps between the actual manga content as the manga was not big enough to contribute soley to a single episode.

P.S. Caps lock is not "crooz control 4 coolz".

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Jonny America

Lol@Madness using my spelling.

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Final Ultima

God, do you read what your saying? Toriyama has AUTHORITY over Dragonball and that is canon!
Just drop this, you fanboys keep ignoring blatant facts, lets stay on topic.

Damn you are repugnant, you continue to say that dragonball is only the manga when Toriyama said Different.
BTW Toriyama never wrote the Daizenshuu's.
Drop it and lets get back on topic.

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Madness

I made you lol and didn't get any reps lol

Who's being the fanboy now? It's perfectly true what Jonny said. Toriyama released the manga first and that means that the manga has all of the information that we need. Nothing that is/was needed for our comprehension would have been left out. Therefore, all of the relevant info is in the manga. The filler is simply stuff that was used to "fill". Nothing more.

Repugnant? *Reported*

I never said that Dragon Ball was only the manga. I said quite the opposite. I said that there's a difference between canon Dragon Ball and just Dragon Ball.

I know that Toriyama didn't write the Daizenshuu's and I stated that too. What I did say is that they contain information from the original manga and thus is canon.

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Jonny America

How are we fanboys? You're the one rejecting fact so you don't have to deny what you want to be true. As for Madness, I'm max'd. You get repz tomorrow.

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Final Ultima

Drop it fanboys, You can keep closing your eye's and covering your ears all you want. Toriyama basically saying the Anime and the manga is the same isn't going to change, even with your denial and excuses.

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