Itachi vs Anything - Page 5

**Nikushimi** · 01-01-2008

This section should be renamed "Itachi", srsly.

Now, this topic is slightly different from the others. In this topic, only hand-to-hand combat, i.e., Taijutsu, is allowed, along with anything that relates to physical ability or the enhancement thereof (i.e., Sharingan).

Here's the catch, though: Absolute balanced power. Meaning equal strength and equal speed. This, of course, leaves sheer fighting technique and prowess as the only area of ability subject to question.

A sample of Itachi's hand-to-hand skill and style:

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He relies on complex grapples and throws, redirecting rather than or in conjunction with blocking, and utilizes techniques similar to what you might find in a user of Jujutsu. Add onto that, Sharingan grants him perception of enemy movement to such degree, he can seemingly react to an action before said action is made.

So, do we have any challengers?

And yes, I am stirring things up, and also yes, I am enjoying myself quite a lot.

**Majuub** · 01-01-2008

Edition: Sanosuke Sagara maybe... Battosai.

Kei · 01-01-2008

Pictures = not working.

Itachi loses.

**Nikushimi** · 01-01-2008

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Originally Posted by Majuub

The living tribunal =/

...What? Are those characters?

Obviously, I don't know anything about them, but two things:

1. Please explain their abilities, at least briefly.

2. This is one-on-one.

@Kei: STFU.

**Majuub** · 01-01-2008

Sorry, I didn't read correctly, I thought you meant Itachi against anything, but now I see it's hand to hand. So, no weapons allowed?

**Nikushimi** · 01-01-2008

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Originally Posted by Majuub

Sorry, I didn't read correctly, I thought you meant Itachi against anything, but now I see it's hand to hand. So, no weapons allowed?

I dunno. I guess weaponry could be considered a type of physical combat (although, I DID specify "hand-to-hand", but whatever).

Armed and unarmed- let's just go with either.

**Majuub** · 01-01-2008

So, since Shikai and Bankai are a kind of enhancement, can I go with hollow Ichigo? Since his bankai multiplies his speed and power drasticly. We make him start at balanced power, then he uses Shikai and Bankai to multiplie his strength and speed. I have a feeling you're going to say it's illegal.

**JAIF** · 01-01-2008

Actually, inherent traits like Shi-kai and Ban-kai are allowed in balanced power match-ups, even if they multiply the user's strenght. But then again, you'd have to start Itachi at base, w/o Sharingan, and make him equal to Ichigo's base, and then you'd have a whole different story in your hands...

Either way, in balanced power hand-to-hand combat, Itachi is invincible. Even if the opponent has a superior fighting style, Itachi can just copy it with the Sharingan, and since it's balanced power, his body can automatically use it against his enemy. The only way to beat Itachi there would have to be applying multipliers such as transformations and power-ups, or using special weaponry.

an0nym0us · 01-01-2008

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Originally Posted by Nikushimi

Fabricating an entire dimension and controlling all it's laws- nay, being all its laws, is not omnipotence?

And if there actually are characters who can control time, space, and matter better than Itachi controls the Tsukuyomi...they aren't omnipotent???

It's not my fault if you lack interest in reading US Comics.

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Originally Posted by Nikushimi

It applies to anyone who is bound by normal limitations. Obviously, a being that transcends existance is not bound by the laws of that existance. That, by the way, is the premise of Tsukuyomi.

According to the Naruto universe, Tsukuyomi has stated properties that transcend the series itself, i.e., being unbreakable to anyone without Mangekyou Sharingan, because the mechanics of the Genjutsu demand it, otherwise it can't be resisted. But when something transcends...everything...and plays the part of a "Duos Ex Machina"...then NO laws are applicable, including those of Tsukuyomi.

Laws can be overridden by other laws, where there is room to do so. For instance, the words "omnipotent" and "immortal" have concrete definitions, and are not subject to negotiation. If a character is "omnipotent" or "immortal", then...they just are. That's it. End of story.

DBZ doesn't need a room to overridden Laws. Itachi said nothing but a Mangekyo Sharingan user which means omnipotent/immortal are excluded. You are really contradicting your own theory.

PC Supes' mind was so strong, that when a powerful alien tried to use his telepathy against Superman, it overloaded the alien's mind, and he was killed:

**Nikushimi** · 01-01-2008

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Originally Posted by Majuub

So, since Shikai and Bankai are a kind of enhancement, can I go with hollow Ichigo? Since his bankai multiplies his speed and power drasticly. We make him start at balanced power, then he uses Shikai and Bankai to multiplie his strength and speed. I have a feeling you're going to say it's illegal.

Actually, I was expecting someone to bring that up at some point. Just not so soon.

Although...I did say "absolute balanced power", i.e., Strength and Speed equal. I also said "anything that relates to physical ability or the enhancement thereof", not "and any techniques/transformations that would increase strength and/or speed above the bar". Sharingan enhances Itachi's perception, which allows him to fight better, but his physical power and speed remain unchanged. ;)

Heh heh heh... Yes, I am a complete and total asshole.

**Shirogetsu** · 01-01-2008

Itachi versus Devilman.

The only way Itachi would win is if he faggots out [like he usually does] and resorts to instant use of Tsukiyomi, srsly. >_>

**Majuub** · 01-01-2008

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Originally Posted by Shirogetsu

Itachi versus Devilman.

The only way Itachi would win is if he faggots out [like he usually does] and resorts to instant use of Tsukiyomi, srsly. >_>

It's hand to hand.

**Shirogetsu** · 01-01-2008

Devilman then, EASILY.

**JAIF** · 01-01-2008

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Originally Posted by Shirogetsu

Devilman then, EASILY.

It's balanced power. =/

Srsly, read Nikushimi's post first.

And Niku, Shikai and Bankai are related to the enhancement of physical attributes, since they are techniques, and even though most would remain unused since this is only hand-to-hand (example, Byakuya could not use Senbon-zakura in a hand-to-hand match-up), Ichigo's would just do the trick. Although, a 5x speed would not be enough for Itachi not to be able to follow, and if "balanced power" means Itachi (w/o Sharingan) = Ichigo (base), then Itachi (w/ Sharingan) should be able to beat Ichigo (Bankai) in hand-to-hand.

**Shirogetsu** · 01-01-2008

I'd rather not follow Nikushimi's roles on the versus, since all he wants is to hear the victor to come out as Itachi. ;/

Sorry, mayn, but we all know it's the inevitable truth. </3

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Nikushimi RPG Team Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: At Unraikyou, watching Sasuke get owned @ 300km/h. Posts: 13,238 Rep Power: 129	Itachi vs. Anything that draws breath! D:< This section should be renamed "Itachi", srsly. Now, this topic is slightly different from the others. In this topic, only hand-to-hand combat, i.e., Taijutsu, is allowed, along with anything that relates to physical ability or the enhancement thereof (i.e., Sharingan). Here's the catch, though: Absolute balanced power. Meaning equal strength and equal speed. This, of course, leaves sheer fighting technique and prowess as the only area of ability subject to question. A sample of Itachi's hand-to-hand skill and style: Naruto Manga Returns Naruto Manga Returns Naruto Manga Returns Naruto Manga Returns Naruto Manga Returns Naruto Manga Returns He relies on complex grapples and throws, redirecting rather than or in conjunction with blocking, and utilizes techniques similar to what you might find in a user of Jujutsu. Add onto that, Sharingan grants him perception of enemy movement to such degree, he can seemingly react to an action before said action is made. So, do we have any challengers? And yes, I am stirring things up, and also yes, I am enjoying myself quite a lot. __________________ Bow to the King.

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Kei Naruto Ranked (28) Akatsuki Senior Partner Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In God's Transportation. Posts: 8,463 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 91	Re: Itachi vs. Anything that draws breath! D:< Pictures = not working. Itachi loses. __________________ Brawl Code - 1719-4412-5734 If you can beat Wolf, I won't play Brawl again.

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Majuub Moderator Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,124 Rep Power: 69	Re: Itachi vs. Anything that draws breath! D:< Sorry, I didn't read correctly, I thought you meant Itachi against anything, but now I see it's hand to hand. So, no weapons allowed? __________________

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Majuub Moderator Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,124 Rep Power: 69	Re: Itachi vs. Anything that draws breath! D:< So, since Shikai and Bankai are a kind of enhancement, can I go with hollow Ichigo? Since his bankai multiplies his speed and power drasticly. We make him start at balanced power, then he uses Shikai and Bankai to multiplie his strength and speed. I have a feeling you're going to say it's illegal. __________________

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JAIF Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: The Black Tower. Posts: 5,518 Rep Power: 38	Re: Itachi vs. Anything that draws breath! D:< Actually, inherent traits like Shi-kai and Ban-kai are allowed in balanced power match-ups, even if they multiply the user's strenght. But then again, you'd have to start Itachi at base, w/o Sharingan, and make him equal to Ichigo's base, and then you'd have a whole different story in your hands... Either way, in balanced power hand-to-hand combat, Itachi is invincible. Even if the opponent has a superior fighting style, Itachi can just copy it with the Sharingan, and since it's balanced power, his body can automatically use it against his enemy. The only way to beat Itachi there would have to be applying multipliers such as transformations and power-ups, or using special weaponry. __________________ Join! MFG's Unique Pokemon Game!

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Shirogetsu Gentlemen, I like Brawl. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Inside of Zearth Posts: 8,119 Blog Entries: 9 Rep Power: 81	Re: Itachi vs. Anything that draws breath! D:< Itachi versus Devilman. The only way Itachi would win is if he faggots out [like he usually does] and resorts to instant use of Tsukiyomi, srsly. >_> __________________ I honestly don't care much for anime versus topics, I also don't care if people like them, in the long run most of them are pretty retarded and the only good ones have already been done before. Just enjoy a series for what it is, instead of being "MY CHARACTER IS MUCH STRONGER THAN YOURS."

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Shirogetsu Gentlemen, I like Brawl. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Inside of Zearth Posts: 8,119 Blog Entries: 9 Rep Power: 81	Re: Itachi vs. Anything that draws breath! D:< Devilman then, EASILY. __________________ I honestly don't care much for anime versus topics, I also don't care if people like them, in the long run most of them are pretty retarded and the only good ones have already been done before. Just enjoy a series for what it is, instead of being "MY CHARACTER IS MUCH STRONGER THAN YOURS."

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Shirogetsu Gentlemen, I like Brawl. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Inside of Zearth Posts: 8,119 Blog Entries: 9 Rep Power: 81	Re: Itachi vs. Anything that draws breath! D:< I'd rather not follow Nikushimi's roles on the versus, since all he wants is to hear the victor to come out as Itachi. ;/ Sorry, mayn, but we all know it's the inevitable truth. </3 __________________ I honestly don't care much for anime versus topics, I also don't care if people like them, in the long run most of them are pretty retarded and the only good ones have already been done before. Just enjoy a series for what it is, instead of being "MY CHARACTER IS MUCH STRONGER THAN YOURS."