Nikushimi

Then stop treating magic like an absolute defining force, where beating it means you beat everything.



He lived in a different physical form, i.e., as a piece of candy, by keeping his mind and spirit.

The attack was magic. We don't know its limits. We don't know how or why Vegeto survived. He just did. That does not make his mind and spirit unbeatable.

And for the record, "inanimate" is your adjective, used to describe the candy. It was never stated, therefore, it was never stated to be "spiritless". *glares at ANB*


If Tienshinhan's Ki-Ko-Ho was a mind attack independent of physical power, yes, he would buttfuck Frieza.

That's what Tsukuyomi is: a mind attack, independent of physical power.

Vegeto did not know he would survive. So what? Neither did we, and neither did Buu. We don't know the limits of the Henka Beam, so we don't know how or why it happened. But using that to try to prove that Vegeto is totally immune to all attacks on the mind and/or spirit is...absurd. Just accept that Vegeto and Superman don't stand a chance and be done with it. It's over once you're in the Tsukuyomi. 'Nuff said. ;(

BTW, "inanimate" is your description of it. Nothing ever defines those pieces of candy as "soulless" or "spiritless"; it is merely implied through seemingly a lack of prescence. Nice try, but unless you can prove otherwise, don't go throwing dictionary definitions at me- those are only for certanties.

And again, I ask you: What does surviving as a piece of candy have to do with resisting/surviving Tsukuyomi?

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Nikushimi

This is why I said I needed a more in-depth description.

I was going by only what Super Cool posted about him. If that's not totally accurate, please give me a summary of his abilities.

Otherwise, I say Itachi splits him in half at the asshole.

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ANB

Because being turned into an inanimate object kills you. Vegetto survived, and said: "Looks like I kept my strength"<--That=Would have killed him. An attack directly affecting everything. Besides:

inanimate - Definitions from Dictionary.com

^It's not my oppinion. :P I already said my theory about mental-strength. How would Itachi be able to even imagine something that could harm them? NOTHING implies that their mind or spirit would remain after Henka Beam. And plz stop telling me to "accept". This is blasphemy...madness!

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ANB

-Genjutsu=Useless

-Ninjutsu=NOTHING compared to 20XX futuristic weapons

-Taijutsu=Debatable =/

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Nikushimi

That doesn't really tell me anything, except your opinion. ;(

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ANB

You are admitting that you stumble over your words? Mega Man don't got an organic brain. No genjutsu.

...Which means.

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Nikushimi

Which means nothing, because there's still Ninjutsu and Taijutsu to deal with.

I ain't the one "stumbling". ;(

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ANB

Kirby would copy the mangekyou...!

With balanced power =P

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Pyro Bastard

Lol, JC, you still didn't say anything abut Green Lantern. >_>

Also, how do you expect Itachi to kill off someone in hand-to-hand combat if the guy is twice his size and has skin that is as hard as one of the strongest solids while the guy has the only emotion of rage?

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JAIF

I don't know who Green Lantern is, but with Sharingan, Berserker could never even hit Itachi, and while it is doubtful that Itachi's hits could do anything to him, he is skilled enough to slide by his fists and, like... stab him in the eye. O_o

Also, Shirogetsu, Fate / Stay Night does not suck. It's just... not as good as some manga.

Seriously, your constant manga-bashing makes you come across as a rabid fanboy who hasn't even read most of the stuff he rants about.

At least do justify your opinions once in a while.

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JAIF

If they didn't remain, then the people affected by it would be utterly cast into permanent oblivion without any chance of ressurection.

Vegito's power was just apparently too big to be supressed into a candy, that's all.

Which has nothing to do with Tsukuyomi. At all.

Accept it.

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Pyro Bastard

JAIF, look it up on Wiki. His ring could just capture Itachi and then wait till Itachi had no more air left.

As for Berserker, Itachi would have to get to the eye's first which means Berserker would have to be low enough to get hit or Itachi would have to get up high enough to attack. You have to remember though, due to balancing, they have the same speed which takes away Berserker's main disadvantage. Then, what happens even if Itachi gets an eye? All Berserker has to do is cover his eyes, then Itachi can't do any damage. Also, you gotta take into account Berserker's traits of nine lives.

@Karru: F/S: N doesn't suck. It isn't an awsome manga, but it's better than others. Compaired to most, it has a somewhat original storyline (though not completly awsome) and the Servants are pretty cool.

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Cableguy15

More people who should beat Itachi:

Phinx from HunterxHunter..... He could literally wind his arm up about 15 times and easily Kill him in one punch.

Cell from DBZ, he's impossible to kill unless you destroy every last one of his cells.

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Nikushimi

Again, I ask you: Are you retarded or on drugs? >_<

What part of "hand-to-hand" do you not get?

Green Lantern has no use of his ring, and is buttfucked along with the rest of the challengers presented in this topic.

Srsly, Buu and Alucard are the only good ones so far, and only because they can regenerate from almost nothing and are nigh-immortal respectively. And even then, the best they can manage is to get slapped around and made fools of until Itachi gets tired, at which point, they MIGHT be able to hit him and take him out...

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Kei

So, if it's hand-to-hand and equal strength/speed, do power-ups count?

As in, a Claymore releasing some of their hidden Yoma energy to get stronger?

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