Re: Strength of Base Gogeta
Movie 12 - Unlike many, I don't feel Gogeta was anyplace near Vegetto. Yes, Gogeta gave off such a lucid expression when Janemba's full force punch did nothing to him that it was as though it was "a man with pinata hitting a slow, moving truck". But this doesn't mean the amount of discrepancy has to be anything more than 4x. At least Goku made the valid attempt a fighting Janemba, something he wouldn't even do when pitted against the unaltered Shin Boo. Even if Janemba smiled through Goku's blast output and knocked him out with a single assault (having hammed things up, and having fallen out of an expression of pain), at least Goku tried to combat him.
That verbose out of the way, I'd put Gogeta's base level (Movie 12) about on equal footing with perhaps the Fat Majin Boo (not his unknown roof, but the extent of his power that we saw).
GT - No comment, as it's one giant plothole unto itself to lapse into.
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