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Default Re: PROOF: Sandaime stronger than Itachi, Gai stronger than Kisame.

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Madara was weak when he was young,
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Orochimaru and Itachi both stated that NONE of Orochimaru's Jutsu can do shit to Itachi (which should include Edo Tensei) and that Orochimaru could never beat him no matter what (which was proven, twice, even minutes before Itachi collapsed and "died"),
Yes, Itachi could see through anything Orochimaru could try to do and counter it before it could damage him. Not that he could tank anything Orochimaru was capable of, like Edo Tensei. Again, do you think that Itachi would just stand around DBZ style and politely let Orochimaru summon people that could quite possibly take him?

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it was stated Itachi was the ONLY ONE capable of stopping the Uchiha Clan, therefore, Sandaime, who was stated to have surpassed Shodaime, is weaker than Itachi [13 years old].
Yes, he was the only one capable of taking them, but I seriously doubt solely because of ability. If you look at the big picture, none of the people in charge, like Danzo or the Sandaime(Who didn't like it anyway) could handle it because it's genocide. They needed a scapegoat strong enough to do the job, and also unimportant enough to take the heat without Konoha looking bad.

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Madara was called the strongest in the world at one point, but never "invincible" or "immortal"- and back then, "the world" was made up of disorganized clans with no social or military structure.
Just because they are unorganized doesn't make any individual weaker. It makes individuals strive to be stronger, actually, because they have to be to survive against other clans and don't have a huge village of other comrade ninja and a age of peace to back them. There's no doubt that Madara has learned something since all that time, but with him hermiting it away like he does (Heck, Orochimaru got away with making a village that was legitimately respected, as far as Chunnin Exams go.), the signs point to him being less than he used to be, and not more. Itachi also backs this by saying that he's a shell of who he used to be.
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