Thread: Gotenks was FASTER than the speed of light...
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Old 05-17-2008   #232 (permalink)
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Default Re: Gotenks was FASTER than the speed of light...
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Originally Posted by SaiyajinPerfection View Post
Ki and raw power are relative, however, speed isn't. This is the truth of Dragon Ball.

There are a bunch of different factors that directly affect speed. Just because an Oozaru is 10 times stronger than a Saiya-jin in their natural state doesn't mean that an Oozaru is ten times as fast. From what I gathered from the Saiya-jin arc Goku vs Vegeta battle, Oozaru Vegeta was roughly the same speed as himself in his natural form. However, he indeed looked faster because of his size: he could cover more distance in that form in a shorter amount of time.

That's the problem with these discussions, they never go anywhere because there's no way to prove or disprove anything related to physics in Dragon Ball. Toriyama has never elaborated on them, and they have never been really discussed in the series or Daizenshuu.
Vegeta was playing with Goku. He wanted to show off his strength by punching very slowly. And he proved his speed by flicking Goku away with his tail. It is a fact that power goes along with speed, not an opinon. It is a fact that Vegeta was less than twice as strong as Kiwi and Zarbon but made a mockery of their speed. This principle is never dropped by Toriyama and he never forgets it even in the Boo saga.

No one's saying he got a fecking degree in physics; there are some things he has in the manga that would have to be looked up (Core of planets, breathing in space, gravity, the enormous distance between Namek and Earth requiring high-speed ships, etc.). And by "look-up" I mean just that; casual browsing through a science magazine or looking up a few things to make the series interesting. He even came up with his own unit: The zeno, and it even made sense the way Vegeta was talking. DBZ certainly obeys laws of physics and has room for discussion. At the same time people shouldn't be cop-outs by declaring "It's scientifically impossible, your theory fails" when Toriyama has broken several laws of physics.

Besides, I'm sure you'd think differently if I showed you my calculations. They didn't come out of thin air.
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