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Originally Posted by ANB
1-I made the comparison between the light barrier and the sound barrier for an obvious reason: You were ASSUMING that once you are beyond the speed of light you cannot see. This doesn't make sense because when you break the sound barrier you can still hear.
2-Okay then, stfu about what is "impossible". Toriyama never denies that they go past light speed; therefore you cannot argue it impossible. It's a mathematical possibility.
3-I KNOW THAT THERE ARE "UNCERTAINTIES".
There are known knowns and known unkowns. Then there are unkown knowns and unkown unkowns, things you don't know that you don't know!
-How long he flew
-How long was the nap
Are known unkowns.
-That he circles it at least 24 times
-That it was within the period of 28 minutes
Are "knowns".
Viz is the official translation company for Dragonball. To bring anything into the debate stemming from a deffering translation is both illegal and unacceptable to the rules on the forums.
I am NOT denying that you know Japanese or that they have the word "dozen". So...for the sake of arguement, let's say we DON'T know how many times he flew:
-That would mean he flew so fast and so many times he couldn't keep track.
-That would mean he flew an unkown number of times
-That would mean his speed is considerable
We hear Piccolo mention that they only have two minutes before the fusion cancels. Consider this: Gotenks had not been keeping track of the time and forgot that he only had thirty minutes. In fact, he once again negelcts to keep track of time during his rematch with Boo. In his perspective, a thirty minute nap would not have been fatal.
And even thinking outside the box: IF Gotenks really flew around so many times he lost count, that could imply as you famously tout that he was flying the entire time and took a one minute nap. Which strongly supports the notion he was at light-speed even more than the viz translation.
But I digress. No other translation can be used.
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Me and Lustoid were ignored!
At least ANB's stopped covering his ears anyway.