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Old 05-14-2008   #119 (permalink)
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I don't understand where we implied that. Care to elaborate?
Lustoid is the one who said that once you are beyond the speed of light you "cannot see" since there is not light to relfect on your eyes. Just look back a page. His assumptions don't work because it's just like saying nothing can be heard after breaking the sound barrier when that isn't true. Besides, I've mentioned several times now that they already could not be tracked by ordinary human eyes and that at some point, they [characters] no longer depend entirely on light to see [as evidenced by the death beam].

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Are you seriously pulling that card? The only reason we've been treating the debate seriously is because your opening post was filled with calculations and whatnot. You brought the laws of our universe into the debate, not us.

And going by that reasoning, since it's just a light hearted "kung-fu gag manga," Toriyama wasn't thinking when he drew Gotenks flying around the Earth, right?! He just wanted to show that he was GOING FAST AND CIRCLING THE PLANET in a single, concise panel.
I'm pulling that card because we are arguing the freaking logistics of DBZ and you want to talk about how "unscientific" and "impossible" light-speed travel is. Yes, I brought it up but your arguements have no grounds. To deny they travelled faster than light simply "because" it is theoretically impossible is fool-hardy.

It is scientifically "impossible":

-To stuff a house in a 1 inch capsule
-To regenerate lost limbs on the spot
-To breath in space
-To survive the crushing weight of 100g's
-To teleport from point A to point C without passing through point B
-To come back to life

^All the above examples go to show claiming my theory doesn't work because it is "scientifically impossible" is non sequitur (It doesn't work; inert if you will).

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Ah, the classic "so-and-so could have done this, so that somehow makes me right!" cop-out. Great, Goku could have a vagina. But is there any proof of that? No, it's just a stupid theory. Stop being stubborn and come back with some facts instead of inaccurate calculations and speculation. Seriously, we don't know HOW LONG HIS NAP WAS, HOW LONG HE FLEW, HOW MANY TIMES HE FLEW (I'm ignoring your VIZ line of "a couple dozen" in favor of the actual line, so get used to it), etc.
But it's still a theoretical possibility my friend. And it's based on facts. The math show that it is possible; regardless of the "scientific contradictions".

Your even denying that it's "possible".

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When you argue in a debate, you can only ever argue with what's currently known, or esle there's no point.

We DO have facts to go by. The Earth is 8,000 miles wide. The speed of light is 186,000 miles per second. Gotenks travelled the Earth at least 24 times. It IS possible and there are plenty of facts indicating such.
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