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SRP76 · 05-12-2008

Base Trunks and Goten fight Android 18. They are somewhat even. They go Super Saiyan. Not only can Android 18 see their attack coming, but she can dodge it. That's not a 10x difference, and certainly not 25x.

Babidi reads Yakon at 800, and Goku is fighting evenly, with a small advantage. He goes Super Saiyan. He's read at 3,000. That's not a 10x increase, and certainly not 25x.

Trunks states that after training in the Time Chamber, that he thinks base Gotenks is around Fat Buu in power. We see later that Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks is around Super Buu in power. So the difference from base to Super Saiyan 3 is about the same as from Fat Buu to Super Buu. When Super Buu transforms, ONLY Piccolo feels it. He chastises Krillin for not sensing the difference. If Buu suddenly got 1,000x stronger, EVERYONE would have felt that. Certainly if he got 15,625x stronger. So, the increase wasn't that large.

Super Saiyan Gotenks fights Super Buu. He gets whipped, but can cause some slight damage, and evade a couple of attacks. Super Buu does NOT show any sign whatsoever of powering up, and then fights Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks. They're around the same power. Since Super Saiyan Gotenks performed as he did, Buu was not 100x stronger than he. Certainly not a 625x difference.

Every single thing we see points to Super Saiyan being lower than 10x, and nowhere near 25x, and certainly not even in the same ballpark as 50x.

That's over and over again throughout, consistently.

05-12-2008	#187 (permalink)
SRP76 (22) Super Saiyan 3 Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,197 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 17	Re: SSJ Zenkai yes or no? Base Trunks and Goten fight Android 18. They are somewhat even. They go Super Saiyan. Not only can Android 18 see their attack coming, but she can dodge it. That's not a 10x difference, and certainly not 25x. Babidi reads Yakon at 800, and Goku is fighting evenly, with a small advantage. He goes Super Saiyan. He's read at 3,000. That's not a 10x increase, and certainly not 25x. Trunks states that after training in the Time Chamber, that he thinks base Gotenks is around Fat Buu in power. We see later that Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks is around Super Buu in power. So the difference from base to Super Saiyan 3 is about the same as from Fat Buu to Super Buu. When Super Buu transforms, ONLY Piccolo feels it. He chastises Krillin for not sensing the difference. If Buu suddenly got 1,000x stronger, EVERYONE would have felt that. Certainly if he got 15,625x stronger. So, the increase wasn't that large. Super Saiyan Gotenks fights Super Buu. He gets whipped, but can cause some slight damage, and evade a couple of attacks. Super Buu does NOT show any sign whatsoever of powering up, and then fights Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks. They're around the same power. Since Super Saiyan Gotenks performed as he did, Buu was not 100x stronger than he. Certainly not a 625x difference. Every single thing we see points to Super Saiyan being lower than 10x, and nowhere near 25x, and certainly not even in the same ballpark as 50x. That's over and over again throughout, consistently.