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Originally Posted by Evil Vegeta
Yes, but he still barely dodged it. That was like a last minute thing at best. So, even if Goku is at 50,000,000 for his power, Freeza's still way above that in his weakened form, which still makes dodging the kienzan incredible anyway if we look at it from that standpoint.
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Yes, exactly. If Goku's at 50 million, and Frieza's at about 80 million, then Frieza has a 1.6x advantage, making this feat incredible, and "lucky".
Before this, Goku was at 3 million (up to maybe 33 million with Kaioken x 10), and Frieza was at 60 million. Frieza had a 1.81x advantage, which is MORE than later on. That's why a Kaiokened-up Goku couldn't "work a miracle" like this before.
I won't even go into how a 33-million Goku would be at an even greater disadvantage against the 80-million Frieza, thus making it impossible for him to not have become stronger....
And I don't recall seeing the 20x Kaioken having no aura. It was huge and
intense, actually.