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Default Re: Where do you place base fusions

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Originally Posted by Evil Vegeta View Post
Yes. We know the fusion isn't just the powers together, as it unlocks many reserves of power. I doubt any type of base Gogeta could be superior to Super Vegito at his maximum; which automatically puts Gogeta at a disadvantage against SSJ4 Goku.
I'll explain you, even if it seems way too stretched.

I put Vegeto and Gogeta at about the same level since there is nothing to suggest Vegeto is THAT much stronger. I think he is a little stronger. Now, I think you agree Base Vegeto>Shin Buu(Gohan absorbed) it means(For me, as for you I don't know) Base Gogeta>Shin Buu(Gohan absorbed).

SSJ Goku in GT is stronger than SSJ3 Goku in Z. I believe Vegeta didn't lost much power in GT. Considering fusions seem to power-up much more than the some of their parts, it means SSJ Vegeto and SSJ Gogeta(GT)>SSJ3 Vegeto and SSJ3 Gogeta(Z). SSJ Gotenks(Post ROSAT) was much stronger than SSJ Gotenks(Pre ROSAT), fact is, the kids didn't gain any significant power, it means if the two beings who compose the fusion gain some power, the fusion will get even more power. Now, I don't know if you agree but that automatically means SSJ Gogeta(GT)>SSJ3 Gogeta(Z)

With SSJ Vegeto(Z) being stronger than SSJ3 Goku(GT), I see no reasons to not put SSJ Gogeta(Z) about as high as SSJ Vegeto(Z) meaning SSJ Gogeta(Z) is stronger than SSJ3 Goku(GT). Now, only SSJ4 Goku was stated to be stronger than SSJ Vegeto, there is nothing to suggest or imply SSJ3 Goku(GT) was anywhere near SSJ Vegeto(Z) in terms of power.

Now, if we agree SSJ Vegeto(Z)>SSJ3 Goku(GT), I think if we put the multiplier from SSJ to SSJ2 equal to the multiplier from SSJ3 to SSJ4, it puts SSJ2 Vegeto(Z) higher than SSJ4 Goku(GT). Keep in mind, Gogeta is about equal to Vegeto, so at worst SSJ2 Gogeta(GT) is equal to SSJ4 Goku(Z).

Now, let's sum it up.

SSJ Vegeto(GT)>SSJ Gogeta(GT)>SSJ3 Vegeto(Z)>SSJ3 Gogeta(Z)>SSJ2 Vegeto(Z)>SSJ2 Gogeta(Z)>/=SSJ4 Goku(Z)>SSJ Vegeto(Z)>SSJ Gogeta(Z)

If SSJ Gogeta(GT)>>>SSJ3 Gogeta(Z). I think if SSJ Gogeta(GT) reverted to his base form, that would put him below SSJ3 Gogeta(Z) but still higher than SSJ2 Gogeta(Z) as I don't think the multiplier from base to SSJ is as big or bigger than the multiplier from SSJ to SSJ3. With that said that makes.

SSJ3 Gogeta(Z)>>Base Gogeta(GT)>SSJ2 Gogeta(Z)>SSJ4 Goku.

You understand my point?


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Maybe because potara fusion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normal fusion.
Sorry but no. I'm among the ones who got deeply into that and I can garantee you Vegeto is stronger than Gogeta but not by much.
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