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ANB · 05-11-2008

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I honestly hope you realize this was an attempt to keep the series going, because if they power up from billions of times stronger it would destroy the earth... Notice how SSJ Vegeta's Big Bang Attack is a joke compared to Frieza's Death Ball and was probably smaller than that blast we see from Zarbon (The one Vegeta deflected), or Nappa's first casual blast when he arrives on earth. It has nothing to do with Earth's durability so much as Toriyama wanting the series to continue. Vegeta even makes the claim that he can destroy the earth with a ki blast (Durring the fight with #18). So much for a higher durability.

I agree. In fact, this was my crux when debating with Lord_Sloth in the other thread:

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Originally Posted by Lord_Sloth

2 can play at this. The world in YYH is weaker you say? Maybe the writer just gives GODS more credit than the pushovers they are in DBZ? Enma wanted a barrier up so it's up and damn near impossible to breach in YYH

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Originally Posted by ANB

Lol, exactly. Toriyama is simply much more liberal in wanting to make the readers stare in awe at how powerful the characters are.

Realistically, it should not have taken until Perfect Cell, who's is well into the billions, to cause the entire Earth to shake. If we look at it from a plot perspective, there'd be no point in the heroes trying to save an Earth that doesn't exist anymore, no...?

And Kami-Sama IS the God of Earth. He created the dimension of time so you can't make that argument. We see that even gods can be surpassed in DBZ. The Kaioshin was in awe of the Super Saiyajins' power. And in DBZ, Enma is at best several times stronger than Radditz of all people. Again, Toriyama is much more liberal and his plot rather straightforward in comparison (simply "saving the world").

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I think I should have been more clear. I actually agree; Sensui's powerlevel would be in the thousands.

Roshi's Kamehameha EXPLODES. I don't know how many times I've had to point out how dumb it is to compare an explosion feat to a feat that doesn't include explosions. For example, would you consider Karasu's attack (That we see when he first goes blonde) to be more powerful than Yusuke's reigun that he used on 80% Toguro just because the reigun doesn't explode? No, that's just stupid.

Goku's feat isn't that impressive if we are comparing shockwave feats. I mean that's a tiny cliff (That he only destroyed a little bit of) compared to part of a plateau.

1-Glad you agree

2-Also agree. Just pointing out Roshi has the capacity to destroy mountains.

3-Yeah, it's a small cliff but that only goes to show it won't gurrantee Sensui being in the millions doing something slightly more spectacular than a guy who was in teh thousands.

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Not to sound like a jerk but, when Vegeto powered up, it was not more impressive than when Vegeta powered up in volume 19-20. That doesn't mean Vegeta is stronger than Vegeto =/

Toriyama is a bum :/

That power-up in particular was on of his first ever and he wanted the characters to be as cool as possible (Fighting on a whole nother level). Togashi was aiming for the same thing with S-class Yusuke and full-power Sensui. In fact, the name of the chapter is even "fighting on another level" and Yusuke fires his biggest rei-gun ever (Goku likewise used his best Kamehameha, even surpassing the Super Kamehameha in the 23rd Budokai). It shows even MORE similarities between the two and thus similarities in power.