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Old 05-09-2008   #331 (permalink)
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Default Re: We humans only care about ourselves.

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Originally Posted by Jonny America View Post
SS2, because you care, not because they care.
You basically repeated something I singled out and debated in the response you are replying to, and repeated it.

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Originally Posted by SS2 Vegeto View Post
You keep bolding and underlining words like "you want/I want" of "you feel/I feel", but there isn't actually any point. I feel whatever, I want whatever. So what? Nothing you are saying explains and proves why it is felt and/or wanted, proves that the self-gain/self-comfort is the sole reason or the main motivation at all, just that you do get something out of it. So, you get something. Therefore, it was only for that? That's a non-sequitur, right there. It does not follow.
Based on the fact that you can't feel feelings that are not your own feelings (because if you felt them...they would be your feelings), the conclusion made is that as feelings are personal, as an individual human acting on one's feelings is invariably an act of self-care - this however, is a non-sequitur: an argument that moves from a premise to a conclusion where no connection exists between the two. All that it proves is that conscious action by an individual being is self-motivated, which is obvious - that you make a conscious decision to do anything demonstrates this. It says nothing to support that our personal feelings are ultimately self-caring in nature as we can define within define within our selves the value of things, next to and including ourselves. We feel for the sake of others, as we recognize and internalize their value.
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