Punxx

Yes I concur. Though the fact that Madara can summon the Kyuubi in the first place and that Shodai can hack it nullifies the ability on both ends so it takes them back to the level they were on assuming they never had those powers in the first place. As for the Mangekyo techniques, I have no idea why he didn't use them. It does beg the question as to why unless you take in to account that they're not as unavoidable or godly as they sometimes appear to be. I do find it possible that Hashirama truly was that good.

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