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Originally Posted by Majuub
Not only must he have regenerative abilities such as Chibi Buu but he would have to be much stronger. We agree over the fact Chibi Buu is about even with SSJ3 Goku. We agree Goku was strong enough to wipe him out. We agree the difference of power between Gogeta and Yi Xing Long was greater than the difference between Goku and Chibi Buu. We also agree Yi Xing Long doesn't posess regenerative abilites such as Chibi Buu's. With all that, I don't see why he would survive a full power attack. There could be only 2 reasons.
1. Gogeta didn't use his full power.
2. He is much stronger than what he showed
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Like I said, we just disagree on this.
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Originally Posted by Majuub
The SSJ situation was rather different. Goku got this power boost because of the rage, the same for Gohan. It's because of their emotions. Also, Goku going transformations are something special. We all agree base Goku can't reach the same power as SSJ Goku simply because he is not strong enough. Now, SSJ multiplies the power about 50x. Not only does he exceed the limits but the transformations just puts Goku on another level. Keep in mind, when he reached SSJ for the first time, his power at base didn't grow at all, it stayed the same, only the transformation made him stronger. We can't really say he exceeded his limits since his limits at base were still the same.
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Frieza still pushed Goku beyond his limits, no matter how you try to word it.
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Originally Posted by Majuub
I think your guess is lol. Tienshinhan destroyed Buu's attack with the Kikoho, that attack was meant to kill a weakened Chou Gohan who is still probably more than 100x stronger than Tienshinhan. If Tienshinhan's blast was more powerful than an attack strong enough to kill Chou Gohan, it means Tienshinhan reached SSJ3 like power which I severly doubt is true.
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That's another crazy comparison. If Tien's Tri-Beam wasn't stronger then Buu's ki blast, then why did it destroy it? Not only that but Tien stopped 2nd form Cell dead in his tracks with that move, and was basically whopping his ass for a minute. So are you saying that makes Tien stronger then Androids 16, 17, 18 and first form Cell? Trunks deflected one of Omega Shenrons attacks that was meant to kill Vegeta..... with his hand. Doesn't mean he was stronger.
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We don't have to argue over that as it's irrelevant. Even if that Genki-Dama was 100x stronger than Yi Xing Long, it brings nothing to the discussion. That Genki-Dama was extremely powerful, it could have been even stronger than SSJ4 Gogeta who is probably stronger than SSJ2 Vegeto by a good margain. It just proves any character is too weak to survive that amount of power. It doesn't prove SSJ2 Vegeto>Yi Xing Long, nor the opposite.
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SSJ4 Gogeta is "probably" stronger then SSJ2 Vegito by a good margin?
All righty then. I didn't bring up the universal spirit bomb to compare SSJ2 Vegito and Omega Shenron.
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Honestly, did it ever happen once a character much weaker than the other survive the a full power attack from the stronger character? If it never happened once you can't just say it happens now without anything to back it up. I don't see any reason for Yi Xing Long to be able to resist that kind of power.
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Well I wanna say Goku and Frieza, but Frieza wasn't that much weaker then Goku. Even so, saying it never happened before sounds good, but it's weak. You seem to not understand that we're talking about the 2 strongest characters in the DB universe. I know that doesn't matter to suit your opinion, but it most definitely suits what happened and what was said. I don't know why it's so hard for you to realize that he was stronger then they thought. They were shocked that Omega Shenron survived that blast. And you're right, it is either one of two things, and I agree that Shenron was more powerful then they thought.
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Doesn't matter, I think the power of SSJ4 Gogeta is comparable to the power of the whole DB universe.
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Priceless man, just priceless.