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Old 05-09-2008   #18 (permalink)
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Default Re: Base Goku (Any level of Kaioken, Android Saga) vs. 70% Freiza

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Originally Posted by Madness View Post
Goku's too nice to do that. And I don't the power rise was huge at all. Not after Zenkai's died out.
Well its not like he knew that Dr. Breifs was occupied with Vegeta. Plus its to save the planet when it comes to that sort of thing Goku somehow manages to convince people. Also Zenkais seem to be merely a plot device that Akira only used when he needed them. He brought it back when Cell needed to be powered up to fight Gohan. I guess there was just no need for Zenkais in certain points in time.
It also it took him quite awhile to learn those 2 things so it should give him a pretty good increase. Plus not to mention he was on-par with Vegeta (Android Saga) who wasn't even worried about the Androids even after witnessing the Androids take SSJ Trunks' blast full force with no damage (He sensed his SSJ power from when Trunks flew after him in SSJ mode so he knows how strong Trunks is so really he didn't consider it impressive to take a full force blast from Trunks with no damage).
Also in the Trunks Saga, Trunks said that Goku was "Greater than the stories" when he met him. So Goku should be a pretty good margin stronger than Trunks from that era. So if you ask me with all those points considered I'd say Goku got a pretty damn big increase over the course of 4 years.
I'll admit at first glance the training conditions aren't exactly first class but we don't know what the conditions are like on Yardrat and just the fact that Goku stayed there for 1 year tells me that they odviously had something special. We don't know what kind of training Goku did but like I said he was able to keep up with Vegeta (Who trained in pretty harsh conditons) so he must have been doing something. He could have sparred in the Mountains where it's extremely cold, or something to that effect. I don't know what they did and neither does anyone else but since he was keeping up with Vegeta I believe he found a way to increase his power significantly.
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