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Old 05-09-2008   #82 (permalink)
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1-No, Sensui was taking slashes from the Jugen Tou too: Manga Fox: Yu Yu Hakusho Vol.16 Ch.009 Online Manga Scans
Manga Fox: Yu Yu Hakusho Vol.16 Ch.009 Online Manga Scans

When Yusuke arrived on the scene, Kuwabara was exhausted like Hiei and Kurama. It shows there was off-screan fighting too. So apparently he tried to fight Sensui and couldn't kill him. Also, last time I checked Kuwabara only had B-class power. He might have gone to A by unlocking his Jugen abilities (But that still wouldn't make him fare any better than his friends apparently).

As I've stated countless times, the sword does-not reflect his strength. What makes it special is because it is DESIGNED for dimension-cutting. Show me where it says it can cut anything (and it shouldn't be found in only one translation, no matter how reliable).
Not one of those scans showed Sensui being hit by the Jigen Tou. There is nothing proving the Jigen Tou even touched Sensui. Sensui also didn't take a hit from Kuwabara, but he did from Hiei. All he did was dodge/get out of reach of Kuwabara's attacks, which is why he was able to beat Kuwabara: you can't hit what you can't touch.

Kuwabara's Jigen Tou was not shown to be stopped by any force in the Yuu Yuu Hakusho manga...ever.

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2-You cannot say that the sporadic openings occur because of "God". In fact, that's the most bloated cop-out I've ever seen in an arguement. To the characters in DBZ and Mortal Kombat, "Gods" are just pompous overseers who once in a while interfere and only judge at their convenience. "Gods" are surpassed many times in these series and aren't taken seriously (the Elder Gods for example showed that they can be treacherous when they promised to revive Scorpion's family if he worked for them and they came back as specteres like him).
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The sporadic opening are obviously because the barrier is artificial and flawed. It's man-made. The ROSAT has no such weakness and was pryed open through sheer power (Piccolo thought it was impossible and nothing prior to the horror of Majin Boo proved the notion wrong). Also, unless this is a mistranslation the barrier only repels "demonic energy": Manga Fox: Yu Yu Hakusho Vol.16 Ch.008 Online Manga Scans

One thing people overlook in assuming the Kekkei is drastically different is the fact it is parallel with the other barrier too: Manga Fox: Yu Yu Hakusho Vol.16 Ch.009 Online Manga Scans
Manga Fox: Yu Yu Hakusho Vol.16 Ch.009 Online Manga Scans
So once you cut/go past it, your on the other side. A tunnel, just like the effects we see when Boo and Itsuki rip dimensions.
I'm just quoting the Manga. The sporadic openings are said, by Mr. Togashi, to happen due to God's Will. It makes sense too. Reikai's dimensional limits are shown to be weaker than Makai's. In Nigenkai, it takes seconds to open a tunnel to Reikai, but hours to open a similar tunnel to Makai. Why aren't there any natural tunnels from Ningenkai to Reikai, given that it is much "weaker" in dimensional limits, than Makai? Maybe because it isn't about strength or weakness. Like the final volume suggests: it's God's Will.

The sporadic openings have nothing to do with the Kekkai. If you think they do, get another translation, as Yoshihiro Togashi never wrote stuff like that.
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