Re: Hiei vs. Vegeta
Damn, so sad it needs to end now. If SS2 Vegeto (remember this guy's name) or G-Lord were hear we'd probably be up at 2 in the morning with monsters XD
Just a couple points, and then I take my leave:
1-About escaping ROSAT, to leave Son Goku would need to lock onto a chi-target before using instant transmission. Unfortunately, even Goku's teleportation is impossible because the ROSAT is a seperate dimension. When he and Gohan trained just before the Cell-Games, he noted that "you can't feel Cell or Vegeta's ki while your in here". The two worlds are completely seperate. Kibito probably can't go their either, even tho he doesn't need to "lock-on" to a chi target, simply because he can only move within the bounds of the mortal and immortal universe. He never stated he could warp between dimensions (Still, I can't use the because-of-this-and-by-default arguement and take this is fact; he still might be able to do it).
2-Piccolo and Kami used to be the same person. When they wanted to become the guardian of Earth, there was some corruption in their soul and Kami decided it was better to absolve himself of his evil nature (literally splitting into two Nameks).
Anyway, Piccolo died but reincarnated. If either of them die without releasing an offspring with their essence in it they both die. They share the same soul. When Piccolo jr. finally reunites with the aged Kami he gains all his memories. In other words: Piccolo's statement about the ROSAT either A) Came from Kami's memery bank or B) Did not contradict what Kami knew. He would not say something as bold as you CAN'T escape.
The thing with Super Boo and Itsuki is that the barrier is naturally occuring and even heals itself in the seamingly impossible even that it is distorted. When everyone trained there [Rosat], their power-levels were in the hundred millions which would make them literally millions of times stronger than an ordinary human [power-level 5]. Yet when they train, the Room is so tough it remains intact. Even from the intensity of Super Boo's fight with Gotenks (the former of which was not using his full-power) it remained stable. But when Super Boo began to uncork his vast reserves and screamed, he forced the barrier open with raw-power.
The Rosat is a natural barrier that did not even budge until a powerfull beast, who's power-level is probably in the hundred-billions, unleashed his chi. Furthermore, when he escaped out the hole he made, SSJ Gotenks and Piccolo tried to do the same thing. They raised their chi and screamed but couldn't even put a dent (The exacting wording is "not even a pin-hole"). Boo is not astronomically stronger than SSJ Gotenks. What I'm getting at is that the Rosat barrier is naturally occuring and seperates two entirely different dimension; so blocked-off you can't even feel chi on the other side. The dimensional tunnel between Makai and Ningenkai seperates, again: two entirely different worlds. But there is reason to believe it's weaker: because there are random, sporadic openings that accidentally let a few weaker demons through. Not only that, but it's artificial. Raizen stated that Rekai created it 700 years ago and that demons could freely go to Ningenkai at their own leisure. Imho, the real deal is far more authentic than something artificial. Take diamonds for example. A fake diamond can be scratched, chipped, and even broken. Real ones do not break at all and are naturally found in their own shapes and proportions.
So Rosat's barrier is a real diamond and Makai's barrier is a fake (literally if we want to get technical). Makai's barrier is shown to be less stable by the sporadic openings, and as Sakkyo is visualizing his dream we can see engineers actually taking the barrier down with science (he mentions an artificial one costs 20 billion dollars but those are for weaker portals). The kekkei is simply the higher level to match higher demons. The weaker barriers are for weaker ones (They go hand-in-hand). Yes, I read the manga and it says part of the kekkei is a magical "spell" of sorts but it's still man-made. Not only that, but to claim S-classes are stronger simply because THEY can't break the barrier is presuming that they are stronger [than the compared character in question]. And lastly, about the Jigen Tou, the translation is "dimension sword". Sensui frequently mentions "I need someone who can cut dimensions". The Kekkei barrier was also frequently and explicitly labeled as a "barrier". So even though I know it has magical qualities to it, I still believe this makes it synonomous with the thought Boo can break dimensional barriers (which the Kekkei is) and Kuwabara's sword is sought after because it's a "dimension cutter" than that means Boo can break the Kekkei.
But mayn, that was interesting. Hopefully you'll be able to take a gander at this before your gone. I bid you farewell!
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