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Old 05-07-2008   #70 (permalink)
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Default Re: Hiei vs. Vegeta

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^Bad translation. He says "The ONLY door between this world and our".

Anyway, I just checked the YYH manga itself and it pretty much confirms that the kekkai is a dimensional barrier and not different at-all from the ROSAT. Both divide two parallel and completely different worlds. Both prevent anything from getting through.

Here, Sensui states that the first "gate" is opened and weaker demons can get through:

Manga Fox: Yu Yu Hakusho Vol.16 Ch.008 Online Manga Scans
^A mistranslation: he says "the tunnel is open".

Next, it is described funnily enough as a "tunnel":

Manga Fox: Yu Yu Hakusho Vol.16 Ch.008 Online Manga Scans
^Correct translation.

And there you have it. The kekkai is explicitly labeled as a "barrier" and separates the two "dimensions". Kuwabara sword is the only thing that can cut it and the sword is also described as a dimension-cutter. I don't think it can get any more clear than that; This proves Super Boo>>>S-class. It also goes to show how incompatible the two universes are.

Manga Fox: Yu Yu Hakusho Vol.16 Ch.008 Online Manga Scans
^ A mistranslation: Mitarai says: "the periphery field (Kekkai) between the Human Realm and the Demon Realm."
Your "proof" is flawed. The Kekkai is a "barrier", but of the physical and magical kind. A magical force field. The kind you can touch.
Manga Fox: Yu Yu Hakusho Vol.16 Ch.008 Online Manga Scans

The ROSAT "barrier" is merely the dimensional limits. The kind you cannot touch. The "barrier" it provides is of a similar nature to the dimensional limits of the various realms in YYH. Hiei wanted to go to the Demon Realm, but the dimensional limits of the Human Realm provided a barrier that stopped him from being able to go over to the Demon Realm. Itsuki showed he could overcome the kind of "barrier" that Super Boo overcame, that the ROSAT and the YYH realms provide, by ripping through dimensional limits. Although it took him ages to create permanent holes "2km in size", it took him seconds to create temporary holes that allowed one or two people to travel between dimensions:
Manga Fox: Yu Yu Hakusho Vol.17 Ch.003 Online Manga Scans

"A temporary hole that allowed one or two people to travel between dimensions?" Sounds EXACTLY like Super Boo's hole which he used to overcome the barrier imposed by the dimensional limits of the ROSAT. The dimensional limits of the ROSAT and of the DBZ universe and those of the Human Realm and the Demon Realm "seperate" the two worlds and thus provide a metaphysical "barrier". However, the Kekkai is set up in between dimensional limits to provide an ADDITIONAL seperating power to the demons who are capable of overcoming the first barrier (dimensional limits). Super Boo only showed the ability to overcome the barrier imposed by dimensional limits and therefore only showed he could do what Itsuki did. Itsuki could overcome the barriers imposed by dimensional limits, but NOT the magical and physical barrier imposed by the Kekkai. This means it is unlikely Super Boo could break through the Kekkai with his scream.

The only reason you think the two universes are incompatible is because you fail to grasp this. Also, the reason you're not convincing me or anyone else is because you're trying to make it sound like dimensional limits and the Kekkai are the same, when they are two completely different things. They are both classed as "barriers", but the kind of barrier they provide are not at all similar.

P.S. I would seriously reconsider using Mangafox translations for exact quotes. If you are quoting Mangafox as fact:

A classes = God
Manga Fox: Yu Yu Hakusho Vol.15 Ch.009 Online Manga Scans

Genkai is as strong as Sensui, as she can use Seikouki
Manga Fox: Yu Yu Hakusho Vol.16 Ch.005 Online Manga Scans

Although the raws themselves are most faithful to Yoshihiro Togashi's work (of course), the Viz Media translation is the most faithful translation I have read so far.
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