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Old 05-06-2008   #64 (permalink)
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Default Re: Hiei vs. Vegeta

Let's leave the Makai-physical description debate alone for a while.

@Dimension:

Okay, these are direct quotes from Volume 41 of DBZ, chapters 297 and 298 (I am literally holding them in my hand)

Piccolo sees that Boo is too much for Gotenks. His back-up plan is to seal him inside the ROSAT. The ROSAT is explicitly labeled numerous times as a "separate dimension" and "another world": That was the only door between our world and this one--Piccolo, page 98. The ROSAT is literally another "world" in the sense and title of ch. 298 is "Escape from the Time Dimension".

So if Makai is another dimension and plane of existence and Ningenkai is likewise a seperate dimension and plane of existence, the kekkai's role and the door to the ROSAT are essentially the same. The Kekkai's purpose is where they are different: It's trying to keep things out. The door readily lets things in. Thinkg of it as the difference between a prostitute and someone with a cork in their butt XD

Anyway, Piccolo stated that the door was the "only way to travel between our world and this one". Once it is destroyed, Boo will "Never escape". Likewise, A and S class demons CANNOT go through the kekkai. Itsuki managed to lower the outer force-field layers but the kekkai was so strong only Kuwabara's Dimension-cutting-sword could open it.

The similarities are clear. Makai and Ningenkai are seperate dimensions. Earth and the Dimension of Time are seperate dimensions. They are seperated by a barrier: One is always closed (unless you lower it with a spell) and the other is open until after 48 hours.

@Super Boo:

The "force-field" was the basic one even Itsuki could weaken. Beneath it was the kekkai. Notice how all the D-class demons that were forcing their way in brok through it and it shattered just like glass...? Looking at the hole Boo made, it's very similar.

Piccolo states on pg. 133 that he "blew a hole throught the dimensional barrier with his chi!". So yes, he uses his chi. The difference is, the attack is brute strength and Itsuki is using a special ability to rip holes in dimensions. Boo forces them open with raw power. Your statement, that it was only the technique that did it, is false. Boo was not even aware he could do such a thing. If it had been a kamehemha or even a regular chi-blast of equal power it would do the same thing. Itsuki's abilities have nothing to do whatsoever with his strength.

-The Kekkai is a barrier between dimensions;
-Boo can rip holes in the barriers between dimensions;
-Ergo, Boo can rip open the kekkai. There is really no way of denying this since the kekkai CAN be broken as demonstrated by Kuwabara.
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