Old Rai

Sorry, I'm gonna have to disagree there. They are two different things and cannot be compared. The ROSAT didn't have a magical force field surrounding it that stops A class and stronger powers from getting through. The Kekkai was more of a force field set up between dimensions than a dimensional barrier. The ROSAT was another dimension. Unlike the Kekkai, the ROSAT's dimensional "barrier" was it's dimensional limits, which aren't really a barrier in terms of a force field.

I also said before that I didn't think Itsuki was as powerful as Super Boo. I even said that I don't think that ripping holes in dimensions is entirely about power. As you said, special abilities and techniques are also a factor. Even in the case of Super Boo, he didn't get through the ROSAT limits just by using his Ki alone, as you are making it sound:



He focussed his Ki into a technique that enabled him to use his Ki to tear through the dimensional limits of the ROSAT. The power was essential: without the power of Super Boo's ki, that technique wouldn't have done anything and it can be said that the power of Super Boo's ki can open holes in dimensions. However, without the technique, the Ki of Super Boo also would not have done anything. That is why I ignored half of your post, as it was addressing something I never said. The only reason I brought Itsuki up was to show you that he uses the same mechanism for overcoming dimensional barriers as Super Boo: he rips open holes in them.



This is useful for overcoming barriers like that of the ROSAT: dimensional limits. But it was useless when dealing with a magical force field. I don't think Super Buu's scream could overcome the Kekkai, as it has already been shown to resist techniques that rip holes between dimensions. I'm not saying that this proves or disproves anything about the strength of DBZ or YYH. What I am saying is that this does prove that your argument for Super Boo >>> YYH is flawed and should be dropped, as it is not based on facts.

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Originally Posted by ANB 2-Who knows how big Makai is. We just know for sure that the floors are not infinite since Koenma specifically used a geo-political map to demonstrated how much ground Reikai has covered:

That's merely one interpretation of it, and I respect that. But, unfortunately there are other interpretations that contradict the conclusions made. Youda said that gaining Raizen's generals is equivalent to gaining territory. This is because that power allows one to influence territory without actually occupying it. In the Viz Manga, Koenma talks about holding partial sway over the first level of the Demon Realm. "Gaining ground" usually refers to taking out the few demon rulers which possess power enough to oppose his rule. That "geo-political map" can just as easily be a graph which merely shows the ruling influence the Spirit Realm has over the Demon Realm in comparison to the few powerful rulers on the first level. I find this much more convincing as opposed to conquering a limited territory, because:

1) Koenma doesn't contradict himself when he said "the Demon Plane is an endlessly vast and deep land". And;
2) It explains why we never see any of the Spirit Realm's holdings in the Demon Realm.

I'd like to agree with your interpretation of that statement, but it just leaves a few things unexplained and it seems incosistant with what we see of the Demon Realm (ie. do we ever see the end of a level?). The Viz Manga translated it slightly differently, so that it seems to be talking about ruling influence, instead of physical conquest.

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Originally Posted by ANB 4-Raizen discussion should be thrown into a safe and dumped into a black hole until viz translates it.

Sure. Whatever is good for both of us, lol.

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Originally Posted by ANB P.S: Are you G-Lord...? =D

What? No, I just joined a few days ago. I've been at other boards, but never by the name of "G-lord". What made you think I was him?