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Originally Posted by Deep thought
Well, this theory is becoming a little bit more believable, but there's still one thing that bothers me.
Goku just didn't seem injured enough to get a zenkai. Let's look at everyone else.
Vegeta (Sayajin Saga): Hardly needs an explanation.
Goku (Sayajin Saga): Like Vegeta, hardly needs an explanation.
Vegeta (Namek Saga): Vegeta's face looked like lunch, and overall, he didn't look much better than his Sayajin Saga self.
Vegeta (Ginyu Saga): This one causes a lot of controversy, yet he was more injured than his Sayajin Saga self (BEFORE HE GOT CRUSHED BY GOHAN), and that Vegeta said that he needed medical attention, meaning that he was really badly injured. Keep in mind that that Vegeta could still punch Krillen and Gohan around.
Goku (Ginyu Saga): Not too much better than his Sayajin Saga self.
Goku (Freeza Saga): Needed someone for support and his eyes looked like a drunkard's.
Reference pictures in case you don't believe me: Android 17 vs Gohan
You see what I'm getting at?
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I've pretty much no more to say than SRP said afterwords:
"I love how you conveniently only show Goku AFTER he's dragged out of the water by Piccolo, and has all the time in the world to recover (and still needs Krillin's help even in your scan), and yet, go out of your way to show Vegeta on his knees and try to claim he's "near death". Especially since you also show him standing usupported (which you stick in later, to try to make it look like it happened in that order), yet try to claim that he isn't.
So much for your so-called manga help.
And I can't help but notice that you go out of your way to avoid addressing Goku's clear showing of increased power when he went back to base against Frieza. That's twice that you've ducked it.
So here, answer the question:
WHY IS GOKU STRONGER AT THE END OF THE FRIEZA FIGHT THAN HE WAS AT THE BEGINNING?"
Ok now here are some other manga scans which prove Goku's injuries:
I think after this there is no need for further discussion since Goku was shown to be very much injured.
About being stronger after transformation itself:
How can he evade energy attack from someone so stronger than himself as100% worn out Frieza was stronger than base Goku before transformation:
