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Why do people avoid the fact that Sasuke's fireball was greater than Itachi's?
Same attack, differnt power.
Fact Itachi got overpowered.
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When he was in a weakened condition. Compounded by the surprise-failure of his Tsukuyomi, a bleeding gash in his leg, and the fact that he wouldn't want to completely dominate and overtake Sasuke with his Katon for fear of at least damaging his eyes.
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Originally Posted by Astner
Now regarding Itachi's Magenkyo.
We know that the Amaterasu comes with great abilities, Itachi himself even said that he gained all the abilties (Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu and Susanoo) the same day, no training required.
As for the bigots, that refuse to believe that Sasuke would've won if Itachi didn't use the Magenkyo.
And are refering to this.
This doesn't prove anything. Especially, since Zetsu, a few panels later states that he can't put his finger on it
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Regardless of the exact cause, the fact remains that some external factor led to Itachi's downfall, rather than outright inferiority, which is what you're suggesting. Zetsu clearly states "That definitely was not Itachi's full power". I don't know how it can be any more blatant than that.
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Futhermore, it was Itachi who brought Sasuke to the tempel. It would've been a disgrace if he decided to show up weakened or unprepared.
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Or maybe you're just overlooking the high probability that confronting Sasuke was necessary, regardless of whether or not he was prepared.
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And Sasuke had the chance, but never took it, to gain the Magenkyo in the valley of the end.
Zetsu, as seen above compared the Magenkyo to a tool of war, as a weapon.
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Sasuke never took it. So leave it at that. He traded it for training with a pedophile instead, and there's still no guarantee he would've been stronger than Itachi if he had gotten it.
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Now lets say that I decide to bring a gun to a fight. Just because I can. Does that make me a better fighter?
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Yes.
Kisame without Samehada is considerably weaker than Kisame with Samehada. But when creating a versus thread, which do we automatically assume exists? Obviously, we default to Kisame possessing Samehada and just accept it as a given. If you want a match based solely on which muscle-man can out-flex the other, maybe you should go post your theories in the DBZ forum. In Naruto, weapons often make the man, and are fair game in any situation. If you can't keep up...too bad.
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Originally Posted by Astner
As mentioned above, the three abilities that put Itachi on top came from the Magenkyo, and one of them had no effect.
So if Sasuke had decided to take it back then, he would have won this battle rather quickly.
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And if Sasuke found a lamp with a magical genie, he could wish Itachi dead.
Pointless speculation, entirely.
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And Madara wasn't suprized by the result of the battle either.
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So Itachi gives a demonstration that, according to Zetsu, was far below his usual standards, Madara knowingly remarks that he had predicted the outcome, and we have confirmation that Itachi and Madara were at odd ends with one another to the point that there was probably a mutual desire to eliminate the other...and it doesn't strike you as a high probability that maybe, jut maybe, Madara
sabotaged Itachi?
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Sasuke is more powerful than Itachi, while Itachi possess more powerful jutsus, ebcause of the Magenkyo.
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Sasuke pulled out all the stops, with practically three years of preparation under his belt for this day, against an Itachi who was not only severely watered-down, but also not fighting with full killing intent. And without Orochimaru's brief intervention, Sasuke STILL would've lost, and had Itachi decided on using the final Amaterasu against Sasuke rather than putting it in him...well, shit. Itachi could've owned that fight, particularly at full strength.
So bow down and bend over before the mighty cock of Itachi-sama. Him>>>>>Saucegay.