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Originally Posted by SRP76
I love how you conveniently only show Goku AFTER he's dragged out of the water by Piccolo, and has all the time in the world to recover (and still needs Krillin's help even in your scan)
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That's about when Goku turned Super Sayajin, he didn't turn Super Sayajin when he got punched or kicked by Freeza and was bleeding. Although, even if he did, he'd still look better than Vegeta.
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and yet, go out of your way to show Vegeta on his knees and try to claim he's "near death".
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That wasn't my main point at all. My main point was that Vegeta looked like shit while Goku didn't, and even you cannot deny that Vegeta looks worse than Goku.
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Originally Posted by SRP76
Especially since you also show him standing usupported (which you stick in later, to try to make it look like it happened in that order), yet try to claim that he isn't.
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I bet many boxers needed someone's support after a fight, and I bet that someone needed support after a fight. Were any of those people near-death? I highly doubt it. If someone's beaten to bloody pulp, and they are starting to lose consciousness, then do they need medical attention? Probably.
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So much for you're so-called manga help.
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Actually, even you, as stubborn as you are, have to admit that you
need to be near-death to get a zenkai. Funny how
you avoided mentioning that.
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So here, answer the question:
WHY IS GOKU STRONGER AT THE END OF THE FRIEZA FIGHT THAN HE WAS AT THE BEGINNING?
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Now that I know what you're talking about (courtesy of EV), I'm surprised that you're using that as your ultimate bit of evidence, but whatever. Techniques aren't as fast as the people who use them, this can be proven when normal human beings can see Kamehameha waves and the like. Yet, if the techniques were as fast as the user, all they would've saw was a flash and the damage caused by the move. Besides, name
one instance where moves are as fast as hey people using them.