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**JAIF** · 04-08-2008

Wait, when did this turn into Shodai vs Yondai? Anyway, yeah, but like I said the kunai were a utility. The seals were what mattered. If Shodai had prior knowledge of the technique, he could try to destroy the kunai, but the problem is that they would be very small sized to target efficiently, especially when eight of them fly in eight different directions (eight because ninja in Naruto usually hold them between their fingers in order to launch them, and there are eight "slots" between your fingers). And the paper seal would also have to be thoroughly destroyed. Anyway, Hiraishin no Jutsu would either be used to a) dispatch a large number of opponents, or b) as an evasive maneouver. It sounds excessive to use for evasion, so I'm guessing it simply... wouldn't be used in a one-on-one fight. But like I said, Yondaime had Rasengan, he could summon Gamabunta and probably had all sorts of other skills (he also practiced elemental ninjutsu, according to Kakashi), so yeah. But he's pretty irrelevant in this.

And yes, Naruto is (supposed to be) non-linear. Real-life is non-linear too - I could defeat a much stronger person than me if I employed a specific fighting style. However, there are limitations to how far this logic applies. It probably stands that:

Uchiha Madara (prime) >>> Uchiha Itachi (prior to defeat) >>> Orochimaru (Edo Tensei) > Sandaime Hokage (old) >>> Shodai & Nidai >>> Shodai Hokage.

In a linear fashion. As you see, the presumed difference is quite large (and also, this doesn't really use anything about Yondaime, just the fact that Shodai and Nidai's ressurected bodies were as strong as their original ones, which was implied a few times in the battle by the ANBU watching the fight and Sandaime himself, even Orochimaru). So, I'd find it hard to believe that a person could overwhelm these odds with an elemental disadvantage under normal conditions.

Then again, you never know. It might have been Shodai's MAXIMUM RESOLVE ZENKAI POWAA GETSUGA TENSHOU or a world annihilation jutsu like the one in that video game. Eh.

04-08-2008	#17 (permalink)
JAIF Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: The Black Tower. Posts: 5,518 Rep Power: 38	Re: Shondai more powerful than Uchiha Madara evidence #2 Wait, when did this turn into Shodai vs Yondai? Anyway, yeah, but like I said the kunai were a utility. The seals were what mattered. If Shodai had prior knowledge of the technique, he could try to destroy the kunai, but the problem is that they would be very small sized to target efficiently, especially when eight of them fly in eight different directions (eight because ninja in Naruto usually hold them between their fingers in order to launch them, and there are eight "slots" between your fingers). And the paper seal would also have to be thoroughly destroyed. Anyway, Hiraishin no Jutsu would either be used to a) dispatch a large number of opponents, or b) as an evasive maneouver. It sounds excessive to use for evasion, so I'm guessing it simply... wouldn't be used in a one-on-one fight. But like I said, Yondaime had Rasengan, he could summon Gamabunta and probably had all sorts of other skills (he also practiced elemental ninjutsu, according to Kakashi), so yeah. But he's pretty irrelevant in this. And yes, Naruto is (supposed to be) non-linear. Real-life is non-linear too - I could defeat a much stronger person than me if I employed a specific fighting style. However, there are limitations to how far this logic applies. It probably stands that: Uchiha Madara (prime) >>> Uchiha Itachi (prior to defeat) >>> Orochimaru (Edo Tensei) > Sandaime Hokage (old) >>> Shodai & Nidai >>> Shodai Hokage. In a linear fashion. As you see, the presumed difference is quite large (and also, this doesn't really use anything about Yondaime, just the fact that Shodai and Nidai's ressurected bodies were as strong as their original ones, which was implied a few times in the battle by the ANBU watching the fight and Sandaime himself, even Orochimaru). So, I'd find it hard to believe that a person could overwhelm these odds with an elemental disadvantage under normal conditions. Then again, you never know. It might have been Shodai's MAXIMUM RESOLVE ZENKAI POWAA GETSUGA TENSHOU or a world annihilation jutsu like the one in that video game. Eh. __________________ Join! MFG's Unique Pokemon Game!