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**JAIF** · 04-08-2008

You can summon the most powerful thing in existence and control it.

You are faced with an opponent you can't defeat.

The thing you can summon can easily kill that opponent.

You will summon that thing. Logic dictates it. Unless you can't. Because your opponent has more hax than you do (hint hint). Anyway, that's not really the point. A Kyuubi-less Madara would still be presumably stronger than Shodai, according to my calculations. However, if Madara actually tried to use the Kyuubi, then Shodai used his own kekkei genkai to negate Madara's control or even take control of the bijuu himself, then Madara would be the one put at a disadvantage because of the chakra he expended. Anyway, it's just a scenario. There are a thousand reasons why Madara could have lost to a weaker shinobi. And there's quite enough evidence to logically assume that Shodai was that weaker shinobi. It's not set in stone, I admit. Especially considering this is Kishimoto we are talking about.

As for Yondaime, he was stated to be the greatest of the Hokage. He had developed time-space ninjutsu and createst the finest form of spatial (or whatever the Rasengan's form is) manipulation. Shodai could manipulate wood and Bijuu. At this point I would also mention that one of Shodai's biggest strengths, his unique Mokuton kekkei genkai, would be at a great disadvantage against the Uchiha clan's deftly handled Katon ninjutsu (and let's not even get started on Amaterasu). So Shodai would have to be much, much stronger than Madara to defeat him in a "fair" fight. Such difference, I repeat, is irrealistic according to the evidence.

04-08-2008	#10 (permalink)
JAIF Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Piercing the Heavens and stuff. Posts: 5,852 Rep Power: 63	Re: Shondai more powerful than Uchiha Madara evidence #2 You can summon the most powerful thing in existence and control it. You are faced with an opponent you can't defeat. The thing you can summon can easily kill that opponent. You will summon that thing. Logic dictates it. Unless you can't. Because your opponent has more hax than you do (hint hint). Anyway, that's not really the point. A Kyuubi-less Madara would still be presumably stronger than Shodai, according to my calculations. However, if Madara actually tried to use the Kyuubi, then Shodai used his own kekkei genkai to negate Madara's control or even take control of the bijuu himself, then Madara would be the one put at a disadvantage because of the chakra he expended. Anyway, it's just a scenario. There are a thousand reasons why Madara could have lost to a weaker shinobi. And there's quite enough evidence to logically assume that Shodai was that weaker shinobi. It's not set in stone, I admit. Especially considering this is Kishimoto we are talking about. As for Yondaime, he was stated to be the greatest of the Hokage. He had developed time-space ninjutsu and createst the finest form of spatial (or whatever the Rasengan's form is) manipulation. Shodai could manipulate wood and Bijuu. At this point I would also mention that one of Shodai's biggest strengths, his unique Mokuton kekkei genkai, would be at a great disadvantage against the Uchiha clan's deftly handled Katon ninjutsu (and let's not even get started on Amaterasu). So Shodai would have to be much, much stronger than Madara to defeat him in a "fair" fight. Such difference, I repeat, is irrealistic according to the evidence. __________________ Empty until further notice.