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Originally Posted by Nikushimi
Do you know what "stated" means? "Itachi pulled his punches. Stated."
Zetsu stated that Itachi was trying not to damage Sasuke's eyes, and really, it's just common fucking sense. Why you feel the need to dispute this, I have no idea; perhaps you've honestly lost it.
In case you haven't noticed, Genjutsu stopped a while ago.
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Itachi did not directly say he was holding back. Actually Zetsu said that, shortly after he stopped using it.
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Originally Posted by Nikushimi
As SS2_Vegeto stated, he underestimated Sasuke and got burned because of it. He had no way of knowing that Sasuke could break Tsukuyomi. Amaterasu was done in desparation after that, and he TOTALLY did not see Sasuke's snake-shedding thing coming.
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Read above post.
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Originally Posted by Nikushimi
Orochimaru can use the abilities of his hosts. He's even utilized three elements so far from what we've seen. And if you're implying that Orochimaru could have beaten Itachi if he had been better-informed...just stop. To begin with, Itachi and Orochimaru were both members of Akatsuki, so they would at least have rudimentary knowledge about one another already. Especially since Orochimaru was planning to take Itachi's body, which he would not do to Itachi specifically unless...he knew plenty already. On top of that, Orochimaru outright admitted Itachi's superiority, no conditions, no exceptions. He flat-out said "He is stronger than me". It doesn't get any clearer than that, especially when we actually see the two fight.
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He has to learn them though, learning to utilize them takes time. By the looks of it, Itachi may have been a newbie member at the time. So Orochimaru not realizing his full capabilities is understandable. He spoke of him being stronger in the context of obtaining his body, not in an actual fight. And we do not see the two "fight", all we see is Orochimaru getting caught in a genjutsu. For all we know, Orochimaru could've stepped right infront of him, and attempted the ritual right away. And by the looks of it, that seemed to be the case, just like Itachi underestimated Sasuke, Oro did the same to Itachi.
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Originally Posted by Nikushimi
Zetsu stated Sasuke had utilized the heat from Amaterasu. Amaterasu is hotter than normal fire, so don't tell me "it wasn't the greatest factor". The whole bloody forest was burning.
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He said that he was trying to take advantage of Amaterasu "too". That does not make it the greatest factor. Especially if Sasuke's Katon was fired directly towards the atmosphere, while Amaterasu's heat would cool down as it rose. If fired directly, it speeds up the process a whole lot, quite obviously.
This was also stated by Zetsu.
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Originally Posted by Nikushimi
Kisame doesn't need Sharingan. He's stronger than Oro, faster than Oro, has better Ninjutsu than Oro, has fecking Samehada, has more chakra than ANYONE in Akatsuki, and has...pretty much been unanimously agreed to be stronger than Orochimaru.
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Stronger and more chakra, yes. His speed is never been proven to be extraordinary ever, especially when carrying that big sword around, he can't be that fast. We don't know if Samehada can absorb jutsus, we've only seen it eat pure chakra. Plus, if one attribute from a person dominates another's, does not necessarily count the other person out. Orochimaru was able to last against an opponent as powerful as Yonbi Naruto, much stronger than Kisame. So you should stop looking at it through that viewpoint. And I will add: Don't believe the hype, just believe what you see.
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Originally Posted by Nikushimi
And Kirin itself was bullshit, so don't try to use Itachi's Susano'o as an excuse to try labelling him as a fanservice character. And btw, it wouldn't have even happened if not for the heat from Amaterasu, which was Itachi's Jutsu. So essentially, it was a Jutsu that was designed almost exclusively for Itachi.
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Kirin was a pretty well-thought out technique IMO, a first of its kind in the Naruto world. Susano is just a boney statue thingy, it looks ridiculous actually. Sasuke was planning to use it against Team Kakashi and Deidara, so obviously Itachi's Amaterasu is not prequisite, as you so highly believe.
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Originally Posted by Nikushimi
So I guess Sasuke was just kidding when he nearly slammed Deidara into his own minefield along with the C2 Dragon.
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Sasuke was in a really disadvantegeous situation. Interrogation wasn't even an option at the time, it was just avoid getting blown up. To get out of the situation, he tried to get rid of the C2 Dragon and hopefully take Deidara out in the process. Later on, when the tides turn more on Sasuke's favor, the interrogation options pops up again, and so he avoids dealing a lethal blow.