AlienMunkie

ok, for the six gates thing, im not too sure. it is clearly weird. if rocklee were to use all eight gates, i doubt he would be able to beat an hokage, so assuming that guy can reach hokage level is shaky. plus, the anime said that the eighth gate might be able to reach the strength of hokage. the fact of the matter is, saying that kisame can own orochimaru is like saying he can own sarutobi. which is impossible to me. 30 percent of his chakra was compared to naruto's chakra when he was 12. so at age 12, naruto had just as much chakra as the 30% shouten. i doubt that kisame's strenght is even in the same boat as tsunade's. honestly, she picked up gababunta's blade, and twirled it like a baton. also kisame didnt beat the actual yonbi. he beat the host. thats like saying he could beat the nine tailed fox. if naruto were to create all nine tails, i doubt he would be able to take on the acual kyuubi. we dont know how much of his bijuu the yonbi could control. kisame is powerful i have to admit, but he isnt better than orochimaru. not only did he admit to being weaker than jiraiya, but he said that itachi could have done something. not including himself in the phrase helps my theory. kisame' couldnt cut through a small toad that jiraiya summoned. although he obviously cutting with much force, the toad wasnt high leveled. although, when i think about what you say, i begin to think that kisame can own orochimaru. but orochimaru can summon minato. orochimaru and minato vs kisame is just overkill.