Further crushing:
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Wow JC...you don't know anything about DBZ :|
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After years of not reading or watching it, I admit my knowledge isn't what it used to be. However, I still know more about it than your average, run-of-the-mill noob. D;
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Goku talked to the others because he was CONCERNCED about them. Guess what? In this scenario there is no one for him to worry about :P And yes, he did immediately beat Recoome. Same with Burter (only it took longer since there were two dudes and they moved really fast). When he was a kid in the Budokai, all the opponents he knew to be weak he immediately knocked them out. A prime example is PanPoot (Someone you probably don't even know, rofl). Even Tenshinhan didn't waste time who was evil.
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All it takes is a "Hi, we're going to fight". And he's lost. Try rereading those instances yourself, and you'll see that there is definitely some staring down involved. ;(
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Matter of fact, the character's dispatching of weak opponents with a grin on their face became a comedy-relief TRADITION and eventually an archetype in shonen (Seen in Yu Yu Hakusho for example)
The other points :)
Vegeta...killed Pocus outright. Read the fight again, it barely covers a chapter. Piccolo is a brilliant fighter, the attack (if you actually saw it) is designed to make the opponent dodge on purpose so they can get overconfident. Then they are WTFpwnt. Guess what? It was so popular Kishimoto integrated a similar technique into his own manga (The Rain Ninja who fought Gaara :O )!
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I have no idea what point you're trying to make here. All I got from this is that Piccolo and Vegeta are dead meat. Srsly, you HAVE to kill Itachi immediately.
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Re-read even 1 graphic novel, several characters, good or evil, rape opponents who would otherwise waste their time. Taunting, scowling, humilating, these are things Itachi is famous for. So I don't get why your getting on Vegerot's ballz.
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Again, you're not paying attention. Itachi is not famous for any of that, so you're dead wrong there. For starters, the only people Itachi even THINKS about playing with are those that he knows well and understands almost fully. When it comes to unknown adversaries, he's professional, delivers rapeage without a word, and it all happens instantly.
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Nao, on to you counter-attack:
"Itachi is God in his realm!"
Yeah, so...? Kami was literally god and held jurisdiction over the ROSAT. It was built by actual (In the fiction sense) "Gods". Even when their powers were in the billions during the Cell saga it held up. Then...Boo fires his lazer and it rips a freaking hole. Through the fabric of space. Last time I checked, Itachi wasn't>>>Universal limitations. And if he is, why is he such a wimp compared to anyone with a power-level over 9,000???
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Again, stop comparing Tsukuyomi to the RoSaT. They're nothing alike. Kami did not have infinite power in the RoSaT, or in the real world, or anything. Him being a "god" in the DBZ sense isn't the same as Itachi being a "god"...in the literal sense... He determines existance in the Tsukuyomi, as well as the terms of that existance. Period.
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Vegerot>>>>>>Gohan>>>Super Boo (The one shown capable of destroying dimensional barriers).
^He knows the attack too.
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Would not work, because Itachi controls spacial density (along with everything else). ;(
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"Itachi freezing is your assumption"
Well shit, people won't stop mentioning chakra/chi analogies. Don't just get on my case :/
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There's a difference between an educated guess and a raw assumption.
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"Amatseru"
Ahem, I shouldn't have to get into this. SSJ Goku lived through lava unscathed. In the Cell saga they can destroy the sun. Like Trunks did against Freeza, Vegerot could play with it and then throw it back at Itachi. YouTube - The King Vegito Vs Buu
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Strength does not indicate heat resistance. And no, Goku did not survive lava. I have an idea of what you might be referencing, but at LEAST in that case, you're wrong. And again, Amaterasu's execution is unknown; it is not necessarily a blast.
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"Itachi could torture or kill him like he did to Kakashi"
Um no. So far NO ONE has addressed me sounding like a broken record: Vegerot would handle anything used against him. Did not the candy-scan prove that???
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Vegeto was turned into candy, and could still move around. Thus, he can survive being disemboweled repeatedly for 72 hours? Uh, no. That makes no sense. Vegeto is no more resistant to hellish agony than the next chump. Keep in mind that a function of Genjutsu is control over the senses, which implies that Itachi should be able to even amplify the pain Vegeto feels.
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"Itachi controls EVERYTHING. He can even make it too dense for Vegerot"
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Let me laugh*
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I fail to see the humor in this. If this is your way of admitting defeat, then whatever- I won't question it.
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...Okay, if you even read Dragonball (No "Z") in the first volume and you understood the characters rapidly get stronger by the saga then you wouldn't think that way. Or maybe you do. They go from being < 100 and smashing boulders to taking out planets to ripping dimensional barriers. And the sheer force of the chi rumbles the ecosystem and can be felt in different quadrants. Honestly, that was a terrible statement. Unlike Island, you and JAIF let your preferences get in the way of the debate. I'm just looking at all the possibilities and shutting them down one-by-one. Alu Soku Zan.
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All of that is worth less than nothing in the face of Genjutsu, Tsukuyomi in particular.