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Now, watch as I utterly crush you:

Wrong. In every single one of those instances, the characters waited around and, had the enemy been Itachi, gave time for Genjutsu to be initiated. Goku did not just own Recoom immediately. He stood around talking to Kuririn and Gohan, then he glared at Recoom, and THEN he attacked. Vegeto stared at Pocus/Pui Pui and let him talk, then let him attack. Even Piccolo powered up before attacking 17, which you said yourself. In all of those instances, if the opponent was Itachi, they would have lost.

Purely your assumption. They're close enough to being the same for general comparison, but if they were the exact same, there's really no telling how Itachi would react. Although it's certain that he would no what he was dealing with, since he always has his Sharingan activated.

You apparently aren't very observant, given that Itachi is not cocky. He says shit, it gets done. Period. He is better than everything else in existance that draws breath, and he is aware of that, and he is not afraid to state that. That is not the same as being cocky. He recognized the pointlessness of starting a war with the most powerful Shinobi Village ("starting", not even "losing"), and he recognized the pointlessness of fighting Jiraiya in a weakened state to capture Naruto, with ANBU on the way (while Kisame insists that he could've done it regardless).

'The hell? DBZ IS bland. INCREDIBLY so. As far as story-telling is concerned, Naruto's story is much better. It has a little something that we in the writing community like to call a "plot" (and as fractured as that plot has become in the current arc, it still edges out over the sweaty "RAW vs. Smackdown" man-brawlz of DBZ). But honestly, let's not get into that argument; this entire section will go up in flames, topics will be locked, etc.

Sorry- you phail. ;(



Tsukuyomi is not just a dimension. It is a dimension that Itachi controls COMPLETELY, as a GOD. His will governs EVERYTHING; if he wishes it, Vegeto would have the consistency of gelatin. As far as shattering dimensions, again, Itachi controls the space completely, so he can make the dimension too dense to break. But Vegeto won't have time to even TRY breaking out, because Itachi will have him totally subdued, just like Kakashi, and torture him, afflict him with unimagineable pain, or even simply kill his ass. There is no way around it. He controls time, space, and physical mass. It is NOTHING like the RoSaT; for you to make that comparison is just...unbelievable.

As far as Amaterasu is concerned, it's hotter than the sun. Stated in the databooks. It cannot be put out, and burns for seven days (if I'm remembering the length of time correctly). Stated in the databooks. Its execution is unknown. He might simply ignite particles; it doesn't necessarily have to be a blast. Which means, he could potentially cause Vegeto to combust by staring at him.




In response to Majuub, Vegeta+Goku does not equal "instant kill"; whatever his intentions, he was dealing with Buu, the next most powerful being in the universe and someone he knows to be dangerous. That doesn't make Vegeto any less arrogant. Had it simply been a battle, with no ulterior goal (i.e., absorption), there's no doubt in my mind that Vegeto would stand there, looking at him, maybe even let him attack first, or power up, or something. Because that is EXACTLY what every other character in DBZ does.

As far as those metals being in the androids is concerned, who's to say (especially in a fictional world like DBZ)? But Sandaime Kazekage's magnetism is electromagnetism. So...shut them down, for the win? And just a sidenote, it was stated that ANY metal weapons were rendered detrimental if used against him, which means, he could probably turn them magnetic even if they weren't iron, cobalt, or nickel. Again, this is chakra we're talking about.

Speaking of which, about Vegeto having better Ki/chakra control... No. Gotenks making ghosts was done as a quirky, inconsistant-with-the-rules trick. And actually, other characters, such as Tien, can use Multi-Form, which requires Ki, to split themselves into different bodies. That's definitely high-level. And don't use Vegeto lecturing Buu on Ki to say that he's smarter than Gotenks and Piccolo about it, because...it's freaking Piccolo. Vegeto is Goku and Vegeta, neither of whom are smart in any sense of the word. But back to the techniques, that actually puts my side of the argument in a better position, because in fact, it proves that Ki IS malleable in a similar fashion as chakra, eliminating that established difference. So either way you wanna argue it, I gain new footing and the discussion expands. And anyway, compare ANY act of Ki control in DBZ to the common act of chakra control exhibited by walking on water in Naruto (which is not simple mid-air suspension like flying in DBZ, but an actual foothold taken on a liquid medium, which requires constant and precise adjustment to keep from sinking, though shinobi less skilled than Itachi can do it without thinking about it).

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