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Originally Posted by an0nym0us
nappa saying raditz is equal to saibaiman is just a character's opinion, you can't prove them wrong until the official guide book confirms it.
raditz didn't say he was 1200, at least show me some evidence that raditz stated that word.
yes, it's true that the light of death is stronger than raditz who is already weak (thanks to gohan) but
light of death is 1330 while raditz is 1500
1500-1330 = 170 is not a big gap and 1330 is 88.65% of raditz 's power. no wonder raditz was so afraid even if he took it in full health/power.
yamcha is 1480 while saibaiman is 1200
1480-1200 = 280 is not a big gap, yamcha was overconfident at that time and 1200 is 81.1% of yamcha's power.
nappa is 4000 no doubt about that, you can't say it's wrong without knowing anything...
based on daizenshuu and manga, 2x stronger is already a huge gap.
examples:
goku and a farmer, what can a farmer do against goku at the beginning of dragon ball since it was proven that goku at the beginning can beat most adults.
tenshinhan and king piccolo, do i still need to explain it?
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1) Every version of the manga clearly has Nappa saying that the Cultivars were the exact same strength as Radittsu (and he clearly states that they were over 1,200). If Radittsu and the Cultivars were any real degree above 1,200, then he would have stated that they were above 1,300 or above 1,400, or something along those lines. However, he stated that they were over 1,200, meaning that while they were stronger than that, they weren't by all that much. It isn't a character's opinion, as Toriyama-sensei wrote it into the manga specifically to give the readers an idea of their strength.
2) The first Makankosappo fired at Radittsu was when he was in peak condition, as apart from a slightly burned hand from deflecting a Kamehameha that was stated to be over 1,000, yet he clearly states that if the Makankosappo had hit him full on, there wouldn't have been much left of him at all. As such, 1,330 > Radittsu.
3) Nappa is only in the 4,000 range when he's fighting against Pikkoro and the rest of the Z Senshi. Towards the end of his battle with Gokuu (just before Bejiita orders him to give up), he and Nappa are shown fighting near evenly with one another (they are trading blow for blow, and Gokuu says that at the rate they're going, the fight would take forever), and this is when Gokuu is at his maximum base form battle power of over 8,000. As such, in this powered up state that Nappa is exhibiting, he has to be in the 8,000 range, which is far above the 4,000 stated in the daizenshuu.