pardon me but the problem in this topic is "you just look at the numbers without logic"
If you read on, I correct myself.
how did you say that daizenshuu is not correct?
i'm sure there's nothing wrong in the power level list of daizenshuu which akira toriyama approved.
When he approved it, he said they were all in the correct area, doesn't mean they're all right. 1,200 and 1,500 are still a bit off of a ball park difference. So I'm on your side on this.
don't tell me you can undertand french and japanese, since there were no english version of daizenshuu.
There are people on this forum from all different countries.
can a farmer use a special chi attack? pl of 10 is too strong for a human adult
Anybody in DB/Z can use chi attacks, they just don't all know how. If you were twice as strong as a farmer, do you think you could total a car with your bare hands? I think not. What about withstand a bullet? I don't think so either, but that's just my opinion I guess.
nappa saying raditz is equal to saibaiman is just a character's opinion, you can't prove them wrong until the official guide book confirms it.
Nappa's got a numerical device to prove it O_o.
raditz didn't say he was 1200, at least show me some evidence that raditz stated that word.
Raditz's exact words were:Bleach Exile > Online Manga Reader > Dragon Ball > Chapter #187 > Page #2
yes, it's true that the light of death is stronger than raditz who is already weak (thanks to gohan) but
light of death is 1330 while raditz is 1500
1500-1330 = 170 is not a big gap and
1330 is 88.65% of raditz 's power. no wonder raditz was so afraid even if he took it in full health/power.
Yerp.
yamcha is 1480 while saibaiman is 1200
1480-1200 = 280 is not a big gap, yamcha was overconfident at that time and
1200 is 81.1% of yamcha's power.
And he still died, I'm on your side here again.
nappa is 4000 no doubt about that, you can't say it's wrong without knowing anything...
based on daizenshuu and manga,
2x stronger is already a huge gap.
examples:
goku and a farmer, what can a farmer do against goku at the beginning of dragon ball since it was proven that goku at the beginning can beat most adults.
tenshinhan and king piccolo, do i still need to explain it?