09-14-2007
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#60 (permalink)
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The Desolate One
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Re: Janemba (Base Form) vs Hirudagarn (Last Transformation)
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Originally Posted by Majuub666
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Originally Posted by Broly
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Originally Posted by Majuub666
When the old Kai said that their rivalry doesn't hurt, it was saracastic meaning that the fusion will acutally be better because they have opposite personalites but the same love for fighting.
You really think that Vegeto was 1.3x stronger than Buu, we are not talking a fight like Super Buu vs Gohan, we are talking about the fact that Vegeto was still stronger even when he only used his legs. I don't even know how superior Vegeto is to Buuhan but he is far superior, they never said that the potara fusion was noticabely superior, they say it was greater, not far greater or anything, just greater. We can assume that Vegeto is greater than Gogeta, we can also assume that Vegeto is far greater than Buuhan so we can also assume that Gogeta is at least greater than Buuhan.
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Fusion is fusion. It can't be any more complete then it is when two people fuse. That's why he's actually referring to the power of the Potaras.
I didn't say SSj Vegetto was 1.3x stronger than Super Buuhan. I said that in order for a person to totally own another person they would have to be at least 1.3x their opponents power. So, yes, Vegetto is obviously at least that strong.
Well, actually yes, they did deem it as superior through their implications and statements.
@ Fierce Gamer - I hope you don't misunderstand me. When I say "faired well" I don't mean he did exceptionally well. I mean that he held his own for quite a while considering how powerful Janemba is. If you look back on the fight, he landed quite a few blows on him. And the fact that he could dodge most of his attacks is another reason why I say that. SSj3 Goku may not have been strong enough to be his equal, but he certainly gave him a good run. If you can't see that...well...  ...I don't know what to say. Even Vegeta gave Janemba a good fight considering he was only a MSSj.
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Stated by the old Kai, the potara fusion WORKS BETTER it means the fusion is more complete and without flaws.
Stated by Kibitoshin, I didn't know the potara fusion was so POWERFUL.
The old Kai said it worked better, and Kibitoshin said it was powerful, so when the old Kai was talking about the fact that it worked better he was talking about the way the fusion perfectly mereged their personalites and balanced their strenght. Why would Kibitoshin said that it was powerful if the old Kai already said it, it means that the old Kai wasn't talking about the power but the way it fused the two personalites and characters.
Vegeto=Potara fusion+Rivalry boost
Gogeta=Fusion dance
Read volumes 40-41-42, you'll get your facts right about the rivalry boost. |
Old Kai says, "Just like fusion.", implying that the Potara is similar to the fusion dance. Then he goes on to say, "But it'll work even better.". He's simply comparing the Metamorese Dance to the Potaras and declaring the Potaras as superior. No referance is given saying that the fusion will be more complete.
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