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Originally Posted by SSJ4 Mikael
Now to tell you all. In anime Goku SSJ3 was beginng to be weaker than mystic gohan. Mystic Gohan is some kind of SSJ2 with Unlocked Potential He's calld mystic cos he dont show any signs of strengh..
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'Mystic' Gohan is a fan term, and he's not some kind of SS2. He is the Base Form of Gohan, because his Base Form can access all of his Bodies potential power and even more due to the Old Kai's COMPLETED Ritual, which was 5 minutes overtime.
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Still after Buu's saga Goku and Vegeta are beaten real bad.. And after that in the movie Hillegarn Goku SSJ3 is Proven to be stronger than Mystic Gohan.
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The Movies are Non-canon as in they aren't part of the Original Story, and as such, don't have grounds in this argument because it Contradicts the truth.
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I think for each SSJ lvl you optain you get 50x stronger
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False Speculation.
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SSJ = 50x pl (he had to go stronger than 20x Kaioken to beat Freeza 50% and Freeza 100% = 2x Freeza 50% so stronger than KaiOken 40x)
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Goku's Super Saiyan Multiplier changes as he gets stronger. In the Buu Saga he only gets about 3 times stronger from transforming, and this is why.
Yakons Kili Level is read at 800 and SS Goku is read at 3000. Base Goku was already stronger than Yakon so he would be about 1000.
Also, Vegeta's power level at the end of the Freeza Saga was within range of Goku at KKx10, and that would make his SS like...10x stronger than Goku's, which doesn't make any sense at all. Vegeta only gets about 3-5 times stronger from transforming.
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SSJ2 = 2,500x pl (Gohan were far stronger than anything else when he beat cell and piccolo sensed that majin vegeta have the same kind of power when he fought buu)
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Rubbish! Super Saiyan Goku fought and did decent against Majin Vegeta before he transformed, so SS2 is only about twice as strong as SS.
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SSJ3 = 125,000x pl (No one of the Z-fighters had sense anything like it when goku first tranceformed even the whole planet were shaking when he transformed)
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If this were true, Goku would have insinerated Fat Buu in an instant. Think about it, Vegeta's self destructing Blew Buu apart, and Self Destruction is just the maximum output of your Ki and Life Force.
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SSJ4 = 6,250,000x pl (Goku SSJ4 could do 10x Kamehameha almost hw many times he wanted and that one 10 timed the Power of the org kamehameha and vegeta used big bang attack(take a lot of power to do) a lot when he fought Omega Shenron)
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Wrong again. SS4 is exactly 10x stronger than Super Saiyan.
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why allways 50x? cos if it were like 10x the power goku would just do SuperKaiOKen20 at perfect cell and destroyed him and stuff like that (ps he did super KaiOKen at Piccon)
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Kaiokan isn't used after the Freeza Saga, so it isn't a factor in these debates.
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So SSJ4 Goku would MURDER Mystic Gohan in a couple of 0,0000000001sec's
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No.
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Originally Posted by Hawkesy the Super Saiyan
SSJ 4 goku would Destroy Mystic Gohan because that power level is just beyond SSJ2 BUT if the elder kai even bothered to finish the ritual Mystic Gohan would have been just below SSJ4 but either way Goku would have beaten Gohan to a pulp 'nuff said
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Try reading the thread so far before you post such ignorance. Old Kai finished the Ritual, and was 5 minutes overtime. Gohan has great potential than Goku, and Gohan would destroy any form of Goku.
Oh, and Darkprince, thats totally awesome!
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