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I think jed is right,i mean everytime z-senshi fight for a big battle their power levels increase a lot regardless how they train.Piccolo during those 3 years improved from 1 million to near what 150.000.000?It makes sense, probably tenshinhan and the others reached at least the 1 million,but i see them in the several millions.
I don't understand this theory about ginyu force.
They are minor characters and in the next saga usually z-heroes surpass minors characters easily.
All this discussion reminds me bleach, before hueco mundo we had a lot of fans saying
there is no way captains could fight and beat espadas,but look what happened.
Plus if non sayans had a pl limit which is not ever stated in dragon ball (it is exactly the opposite)how could tenshinhan's body sustain such a powerlevel when he performed shin kikoho against cell.
For the record there is a bandai japanese collection with manga powerlevels and some guesses made by them i believe who gives tenshinhan a powerlevel of 75.000.000.
Honestly i cannot imagine goku making a fusion with tien if he is out of the millions.
That's my opinion,however jed proved it is possible and likely for tien to reach the several millions.

It is a coincidence that the same guys who said goku ssj with 150.000.000 was impossible are the same who refuse to admit tien and the others could achieve the millions.At the time they believed in the 15.000.000 for ssj goku.
Why people give credit to daizenshuu?I imagine because toriyama manga team wrote the book under akira supervision.Toriyama even wrote some parts and approved them for release.Daizenshuu 4 evens says after freeza saga all the z-senshis increase their pl's very quickly.In namek krillin was behind gohan only 1000 units and gohan was the best.
By the way a translator from mangahelpers told me buutenks said tien was pretty strong in the original japanese manga.Is this translation accurate? i would like to have a second opinion about this translation.