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Old 05-22-2008   #282 (permalink)
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Default Re: Gotenks was FASTER than the speed of light...

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And Goku is not invincible. A nuke would kill him. Radiation would wipe him out. It doesn't have to be physical force to be deadly. Chi blasts contain no known radiation, so saying that he can survive being hit by one doesn't mean he can survive a nuke. The heart virus proved he can get sick, so there's no reason to assume radiation wouldn't damage him. That's yet another assumption you make without any actual evidence.


Cell was unscathed after being showered with missles.

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Basically, it comes down to parsimony and occam's razor. Even if you ignore the evidence that we've presented, you can't ignore the fact that no physics-breaking is shown to happen, or that we have no idea what would happen if you did go beyond light speed. Thus, the simplest solution is that they didn't go faster than light, and until there is a definitive statement or action that proves this wrong (someone saying they go faster than light with reasonable proof, not just some cocky remark or the like, or someone flying from the Sun to Earth in six minutes when light takes 8 minutes to arrive) we can't assume that it's wrong.
1) You're exactly right: we don't know what would happen if we went beyond light-speed. Scientists are the ones speculating, not me.

2) It has been proven wrong. The math shows that they'd have a given speed at a given power-level, and that they would eventually move faster than light.

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Gohan: "Th-they've disappeared!"
Piccolo: "You ass!! They're only moving at a high speed! Concentrate on the movement of their ki!! Everyone but you can clearly see them!!"



Alright, I was just testing your credibility. As for the line, I was just pointing out how Madness and Lustoid claimed we "wouldn't be able to see anyone" moving faster than the speed of light and there you have it...

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He only ran about 40 miles per hour. You somehow have his running speed clocked at 700 miles per hour.
1-Bukujutsu is far faster than running. If Roshi were flying he'd be approaching 700 mph. Why...? Because his arms can move fast enough to do so. And Goku:



...Is dodging machine gun bullets with his whole body. Again, bukujutsu>>>running (which isn't a good reflection of their over-all speed). Goku tried to get back to Earth on Snake Way and knew running would take forever, so he jumped and knew that would take forever so he flied. Guns fire up to 500 mph and standard rifles 1,000. If Goku, with a power-level not even in the thousands, can fly 500 mph and you only need to be 1.09x stronger to be lucidly superior in speed (which correlate) you can calculate their speed.
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AT also made Piccolo very strong from just being on kai's for a short time and doing hardly any training, AT makes characters as strong as he wishes them, giving them a numeric number holds them back from doing anything.
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