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Originally Posted by Vagrant Lustoid 2
Actually, he can't, since it's never explained what hyper-speed is, and thus never any conclusive proof that this means 'beyond the speed of light'. Unless you seriously want to claim that everyone since Raditz has been able to move beyond the speed of light.
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No, Hyper speed automatially mean faster than light movement in fiction! ANB wins the thread with that quote alone.
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Originally Posted by ANB
@Final Ultima: We have no clue how fast hyper-speed is. We just know untrained eyes cannot follow them at that acceleration. In fact, they are invisible. Wasn't it mentioned on this thread that if someone were moving faster than light you "couldn't see them"...? :O
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Hyper speed is FTL movement, hence why Piccolo emphasizes on sensing their Ki! YOU WIN THE THREAD WITH THAT QUOTE ALONE!!! Hell, Freeza's damn death beam was so fast it was invisible to the eye! How in the world is a BEAM going to be invisible to the eye! It means that it was moving at FTL speeds!
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