Originally Posted by USSJed

He uses it in Dragon Ball and it makes a huge crater in the ground, so unless he used two different versions or something?

BTW, what maths are you referring to? I don't see any mathmatical reason for Goku to be thousands and thousands of times higher than Tien, I think that the possibility of his power level being in the millions is more plausible then the idea that the Kikoho is 30000x stronger(Or more, could be helluva lot more) than the user.

The last stated power level of Tien is 1830(or something) in the Daizenshuu, which is 50% of Piccolo's power. Hell, he kept up with Goku for a long time, I have always wondered why people think it's fine that he is in the same league(sorta) as Goku through dragon ball, but then gets utterly left behind later on. Every scene I have seen(...) indicates that Tien is actually comparable to the likes of Goku and Piccolo to some degree.

I would consider all the time I spent making an additive list worth it if people would be willing to reconsider the idea of Tien being such a weakling.

I have been a fan of DBZ for many years, and the whole time I have been seeing if it is possible for a human to come close to a Saiyan or Namek, and so far I have seen nothing that indicates otherwise. If you have some evidence I would be happy to see it.